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Zacs-Master | 12:20 Sat 18th Feb 2023 | News
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Looks like our Tommy has got himself a new cause. As immigration and Mr Yaxley Lennon seem to be popular threads, this should blow some peoples minds:
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2023/02/18/tommy-robinsons-visit-is-a-symptom-of-increased-co-operation-between-irish-and-british-far-right-movements/
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"You support Robinson, so you must support the thuggery that is part of his brand."

That's a rocky road you're setting off on, Gromit.
Well this has turned into a bit of a bun fight since I went out yesterday afternoon. Like I said at the top B'Jaysus!
I've read SD's post, zacs - nothing new there - and gromit, I've never said I support Tommy Robinson's methods. I do, however, admire him for speaking out against grooming gangs. Someone needed to say it and that I can't take away from him. The language used here by people who clearly consider themselves a cut above the thug frankly demonstrates the opposite. Just sheer hatred. The best answer, now removed it seems, read like something straight from a gangster's handbook!
RH, //Naomi you have strong feelings against members of certain communities //

I do? Who would that be then?

I haven't stopped you voicing your opinion.
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You may have also seen me post this before:

Let’s just examine exactly what Lennon is all about, shall we:

He is a former spokesman and former leader of the English Defence League (EDL)
He was a member of the British National Party (BNP) from 2004 to 2005.
He was joint vice-chairman of the British Freedom Party (BFP).
A leopard doesn’t change its spots.
He used the pseudonyms Andrew McMaster, Paul Harris and Wayne King. His most famous AKA name, Tommy Robinson, is in homage to a known football hooligan who was the leader of Luton Town’s MIG gang. Why anyone in their right mind would name themselves after such a person is beyond me. Maybe his defenders know?

His criminal record includes:
He pleaded guilty at to using someone else's passport to gain entry to the United States. He had been previously banned from entering the US due to a drugs offence.
He was convicted of three counts of conspiracy to commit fraud by misrepresentation relating to a mortgage application. The fraud apparently amounted to £160,000 over a period of six months, so no small beer.
He was convicted of using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, for leading a group of Luton Town F.C. supporters into a brawl involving 100 people.
Being sentenced to 13 months' imprisonment for which also included activation of an earlier three-month suspended sentence for a similar contempt of court at Canterbury.
He was convicted of assaulting an off-duty police officer in a drunken argument. This resulted in him losing his job.
He was convicted in 2011 of using "threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour" during a fight between supporters of Luton Town and Newport County.
He was arrested after an EDL demonstration in Tower Hamlets in September 2011 for breach of bail conditions.
He was convicted of common assault after headbutting a fellow EDL member at a rally in Blackburn.
He received a suspended sentence for putting a trial at Canterbury Crown Court at risk of collapse, by broadcasting prejudicial statements about defendants from inside the court building.

Some of his other endearing actions:
He blamed "'every single Muslim' for 'getting away' with the 7 July bombings. His defence was 'I'm sorry, I'm sorry.’
He attended court in support of Mark Meechan, who had been charged for a hate crime after posting footage online of a dog performing Nazi salutes in response to the phrases "gas the Jews" and "Sieg Heil". Meechan was found guilty.
In October 2018, Robinson falsely accused a Syrian boy who was a bullying victim, of previously attacking two schoolgirls.
He is also said to have made a false allegation using a photo stolen from a news article on a teenage cancer patient.

As I’ve also said before; if that’s the kind of person you want to support then so be it but it doesn’t shine a very attractive light on your ethics and beliefs.
Regurgitating it all doesn't change my opinion - of him or of the sheer hatred displayed here.
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Naomi, the article reads ‘ the arrival of the former leader of the English Defence League has been met with dismay by many on the Irish far-right who believe his notoriety is such that he will further alienate their movement from the mainstream’

If they can see through him, why can’t you?
Perhaps you're reading more into my posts than I've said, zacs.
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So you don’t support him?
I think he's an idiot - his own worst enemy - but he was right about the grooming gangs.
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Of course he was but he even cocked that up and nearly stopped the due legal process of having them convicted if you remember. If you don’t…..
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-contempt-court-case-grooming-gang-trial-huddersfield-a8990436.html

This typifies the kind of half baked idiot that the man really is.
I remember.
Being 'right about grooming gangs' is something trotted out by his supporters as some sort of passport to a lifetime of agitating, racism, and violence.

As far as his 'being right' goes, a stopped clock is right twice a day, and it's not carte blanched to smear am entire section of society.

With the exception of one unpleasant post on here, I think the thread has followed the usual format when this repugnant individual aggrandises himself yet again - disgust at his odious personality, and despair that he still manages to attract support from people who mistake his nonsense for valid opinions.
//Being 'right about grooming gangs' is something trotted out by his supporters as some sort of passport to a lifetime of agitating, racism, and violence. //

Your imagination is running away with you - but he was right about the grooming gangs.
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Do you think being right about grooming gangs excuses all the bad he’s done?
Mussolini made the trains run on time, Hitler loved dogs.

Doing one good thing - even if, as in 'Robinson's case, it was rooted less in caring for damaged young women, than as a peg on which to hang his constantly trumpeted racism, it's still not a 'get-out-of-jail-free card (pun intended) to excuse a lifetime of appalling behaviour.
Who's excusing it?
97 posts before Godwin! is that a record?
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I suppose admiration of the man is slightly different to excusing it. How anyone can admire someone with his criminal past is perplexing.

As for child sex abuse, what do you, Naomi, make of the fact that in June 2010 Lennon’s fellow EDL member, Richard Price, was convicted of making four indecent images of children, and possessing cocaine and crack cocaine with images found on his personal computer following his arrested for disturbances at an EDL demonstration.

Lennon was very volcano in his supported of Price, claiming he had been “stitched up” and that “Price has no idea how they were on his computer. His claims eventually became untenable, and he changed his mind about Price.

Someone you admire, eh, Naomi.
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