Ufo's Are They Real

[gramps85]

There's any interesting article in todays Dail Mail relating to the late Prince Phillip's belief in UFO's.  I remember listening to an interview with Neil Armstrong who said the the late Prince asked to meet the crew of Apollo 11 when they did their tour. Armstrong said that all Phillip was interested was whether the crew had seen any flying saucers or anything that could not be explained.

Do other's have their views or seen anything that could be described as a UFO.

[douglas9401]

This happens quite a lot when topics you say you've researched or studied come up, naomi.

Is it the passing of the years catching up?

No shame in it of course.

[THECORBYLOON]

TORATORATORA, do your three claims about other life in the universe apply to our galaxy, albeit to a lesser degree so that there is other life in the Milky Way, we just cannot see or contact it/them due to the distance separating us?

[Atheist]

TTT might be interested in this.

https://newatlas.com/physics/ftl-warp-drive-no-negative-energy/

 

[bhg481]

Some species on earth have a life-cycle tens of thousands times longer than some others. What's to say there isn't a species of alien with a life-cycle of 100,000,000 years, making a trip to earth no big deal?

[gramps85]

Recently there was an interesting programme on TV called: Paranormal. The Village that met aliens. It involves a group of schoolchildren in a Welsh village who claimed to have seen a craft land, and people getting out.  Under investigation the children were seperated from each other, and under interview their statements were uncannily similiar, as were their sketches.

[naomi24]

Douglas, you've lost me. What do you mean?
 

gramps, this is such an interesting discussion and thank you for posting it, but it'll be off the front page on Chatterbank soon.  Would you like me to ask for the thread to be moved to the Science section where it will last longer?

[gramps85]

naomi. It is a subject that I have been interested in for many years, and one that I wish I knew the answers too.  I didn't think the subject would raise this much interest, and apart from the few who will not accept the possibilities out there, it is gratifying to know that at least I am not alone.

If you think the discussion may continue under another subject heading then please move it.

[naomi24]

I think it's an absolutely fascinating topic, Gramps.  Mods can't move threads but I'll ask the editors to do it if they see fit.  If it disappears you'll know where to look for it.

[ToraToraTora]

gramps: "

When primitive man first looked out from his cave and saw lands far, far away, he could only look and wonder and he knew that it was impossible for him to reach these lands.  Along came the wheel, manpower, steam power, electric power and nuclear power. It once took months to cross the Atlantic, now it can be travelled in a matter of hours.

Travel to distant stars is at present an impossibility for us, we simply do not have the technology, the same as primitive man didn't have the technolgy to travel to the lands he could only see." - the 2 things are not comparable. Things primative man can see are achievable with invention and endevour. Travel to the stars is prevented by physics, there is always too much space and not enough time, even in a fictional extention of physics. As I said above forget c even 10c is not fast enough to even communicate to even the closest star let alone travel. Anything you see with any telescope is not even there and as you see it anyway. It's all looking back in time.

[gramps85]

TTT While I can accept some of your points, I think it is realised that under the laws of physics, as we know them, you are correct, but are laws of physics sacrosanct, and is not at least possible to consider that there is lot more to physics waiting to be unlocked by future generations which will allow mankind to develop their knowledge with things we can only dream of.

[naomi24]

Come off it TTT.  A thousand years hence we could be surfing gravitational waves and doing the Time Warp!!

[ToraToraTora]

gramps: "but are laws of physics sacrosanct, and is not at least possible to consider that there is lot more to physics waiting to be unlocked by future generations which will allow mankind to develop their knowledge with things we can only dream of." - they are anything but sancrosanct, the basic insticnt of all science is to test theories until they are proved wrong or verified, even then they are still theories. The subject accepts in its very credo that there is always a chance that something will come along than throws the "theory" out of the window. The thing is though that some of it is so solid that it's unimaginable that it will ever be proved wrong. The whole time/mass/c  thing is a case in point. Not only has it been verified a million times, modern things work because we understood it and implemented it. Satnav cannot work without the time dialation equation for example. Why can't we go faster than light? Because we already are at c, c for us:

&t=6s

[ToraToraTora]

last time this came up I found it was one subject that both Andy and Naomi agree on!

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Science/Question1853725.html

 

[gramps85]

To throw another thought into the mix.  Einstein suggested that bending space it could create a short cut across the universe. These were originally named as Einstein Rosen Bridge, later to become known as Wormholes. It is a theory that many scientists have spoken about and if a reality could allow vast distances to be covered in a short time.

[THECORBYLOON]

TORATORATORA, do you think we are alone in the Milky Way?

[roadman]

time is relative so you cant use time as an argument here

i think there are physics and possibilities beyond human comprehension 

humans only use what like 10% of their brain so try to think bigger 

[roadman]

for all we know we are just bacteria inside a vacuole of a plant cell of a much bigger universe 

[Radagast]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_the_brain_myth

[naomi24]

Spare Ed has set up a poll on this topic on the Home page.  

 

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/

 

Meanwhile please keep your thoughts coming.  

[Khandro]

Distant space travel is impossible for a human being. Nothing can travel faster than the speed of light, therefore even if a vehicle could be built to travel at that speed a human being's life would be over before you got very far in universal distances.

And anyway, at the speed of light its headlamps wouldn't work.