There is evidence that in most of these areas the rise is due to to multiple occupation housing and poor vaccine take up. Should these areas have strictly controlled boundaries to protect others?
Put all those who refuse to be vaccinated on ships and send them out to sea. They can't come back until they agree to be vaccinated, as they leave the ship!!! How's that;-))
//Nj , I'm not to sure myself whether face masks work or not, but you are talking upwards of 20k die of flu, but we've had 120k so far die of covid and still going up.//
I'm not suggesting that 'flu is as serious as Covid, teacake. But 'flu claims 20k victims (or thereabouts) each and every year. Surely if we want to mitigate those numbers we should all wear masks all the time shouldn't we?
//When I was living in London in the 1990's masked were commonly worn because of air pollution//
I worked in Central London - right in the centre - for more than 35 years. The only people I saw routinely wearing facemasks were Asia tourists.
// Put all those who refuse to .......to be vaccinated, as they leave the ship!!! How's that ;-)) //
Nay nay lass - tow them out and dont feed them AND sail fire -junks at them along with armed men with syringes after 6 h
yeah and foo !
that Brazilian - the infected doo dah - now in a nail bar
where they are ripping his nails out with red hot pliers !
yeah
whilst people scream at him in Portguese: Bolsonaro would do MUCH worse you know !
NJ, Unless I've miss read some of your past posts, you've always stated that we have to accept an acceptable death rate for most illnesses or viruses, so the 20 k flu one is the one we accept. At this moment in time we are not sure of what that acceptable figure will be for covid, but I'm sure sooner or later there will have to be one.
Sorry, tc, I haven't made myself clear (my fault).
What I'm saying is that we're not expected to roam around with masks on every winter, even though 20k people die of 'flu each and every year. Yet now it's being suggested that masking up will become almost permanent even though the Covid virus will become "lived with" in the same way as 'flu is.
people will tire of masks, and will only wear them in shops..
as nj says, flu etc..so if i catch a cold or flu what should i panic
am i going to die pass virus on...on and on it goes, perspective is what is needed, if people want paranoia then shut schools forever..ohhh i hear, but kids being what they are.. are terminally! close to mate friends in bubbles lol.. incubators..
Tora is surely right: the virus will, like all viruses or bacterial infections pretty much anywhere become an endemic illness at worst which is vaccinated against.
As far as face masks go, it’ll probably be the case that ciné will continue to wear them. But voluntarily.
People in the Far East generally have worn them against air pollution. and that’s something else we should be addressing
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