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Moorea7 | 11:07 Fri 30th Jun 2023 | ChatterBank
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What are your views whether or not you are a smoker. I'm not fond of cigarette smoke but the "perfumey" smells coming from the vape cigarettes make me feel sick.

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Folk always seem to want to use harm as the criteria for what is ok, and what not. Consideration of others is a better criteria. We finally ruled against polluting the air others breathe after decades of not giving a darn for others. Then evil moneymakers with no morals jumped in to get rich on the loophole that a different pollutent didn't count as it wasn't...
19:59 Fri 30th Jun 2023
Disgusting abominations, we seem to have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Personally I'd make them prescription only for smokers to give up, that is their sole legitimate use.
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Agree. Children have been hospitalised after experimenting with them.
their "legitimate" use is that people like vaping, the way people used to like smoking, and people should be allowed to do what they want as long as it doesn't harm others. Smoking was increasingly outlawed because it was found that it did harm others - "secondary smoking" meant unwilling non-smokers were being made ill too; it was to protect them, not the smokers.

If there's any evidence that secondary vaping is a problem they could do the same, but I don't know of any.
jno: "their "legitimate" use is that people like vaping, the way people used to like smoking, and people should be allowed to do what they want as long as it doesn't harm others." - but it does affect others we have to breath their disgusting excretions. Like smokers before them, vapers are just as inconsiderate. They dismiss concerns, saying "it's harmless" - I don't care if it's harmless I don't want to smell and breath whatever poor impression of a flavour their cloud generator produces.
I have to breathe in the smell of fish, which I hate, every time I pass a fish shop. Nobody should ban the sale of fish just because I don't like it, though.
Nothing worse than someone blowing a cloud of smelly smoke as you walk past them or are in the same room. Disgusting habit, use them at home if you need to or go to rehab if you are so addicted you cannot avoid using them. Sooner they are banned in public the better.
The ban on these in individual public spaces seems to be growing, thank goodness.
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But you are just "passing" the fish shop, jno, just a brief whiff of fish.
Chap next door smokes vapes and I always know when he's around as the sickly smell wafts in my window and into the room. Don't advise me to keep the window closed!
My neighbours on either side smoke...cigarettes and other stuff. Even though we are in maisonettes, it really doesn't impact on me. My daughter vapes when she visits...not a lot. It doesn't particularly bother me. I'd rather that than see her smoking.
I get irritated more by people vaping. The substance and scent travel further and occupy more air space than cigarette smoke.

Those who use smoking as a tool to express their passive aggressive tendencies (ie blowing smoke in peoples faces) will feel very smug when vaping as they can score more points.
In lots of places (e.g. railway stations and trains) the ban on smoking includes vaping.
Folk always seem to want to use harm as the criteria for what is ok, and what not. Consideration of others is a better criteria.

We finally ruled against polluting the air others breathe after decades of not giving a darn for others. Then evil moneymakers with no morals jumped in to get rich on the loophole that a different pollutent didn't count as it wasn't tobacco smoke so they were allowed to ruin the gain society had finally achieved.
jno 12.19 -
On that reckoning jno "people should be allowed to do what they want as long as it doesn't harm others" are you in favour of making all drugs legal?
You can find your answer from this detailed article. I loved it.
https://vapeorizer.co.uk/why-vaping-is-better-than-cigarettes/

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