Mps Have Voted In Favour Of Assisted Dying.

[sandyRoe]

I hope the safeguards around any proposals are as strong as can be.

[douglas9401]

'Toradamus'. 🙄

[ToraToraTora]

12:52 I'll take it! 👍

[THECORBYLOON]

"Nostoradamus", surely?

[Untitled]

in the netherlands assisted dying has been extended to the mentally ill... there are numerous examples of otherwise healthy people in their 20s getting successfully euthanised on the grounds that they have severe mental health problems. in canada such measures are under discussion and very likely to be rolled out. 
 

nobody who introduced assisted dying in those countries had such cases in mind... they were subsequently appealed and amended into being. 
 

toratoratora isn't being nostradamus... he's looking at things which are actually happening in the world now.

[ToraToraTora]

13:48 Thanks for understanding my position. I thought I was being clear but many seem to be deliberately missing the point I'm making.

[THECORBYLOON]

'In 1994, the Dutch supreme court ruled in the Chabot case, in which a psychiatrist assisted with suicide for a woman with intractable depression but without concomitant physical illness, that “intolerable suffering” might consist in mental suffering alone without somatic [physical] origins and not involving the terminal phase of a disease, though the court commented that such cases would be rare and that they require heightened scrutiny.'

It seems then, in the Netherlands at least, assisted dying or euthanasia for non-physical reasons has been legal for thirty year.

[jackthehat]

Tora - I think everyone has understood the point you have been hammering home. It's just that they have faith and hope that our lawmakers are sufficiently astute to formulate legislation which will prevent mission-creep.

[ToraToraTora]

JTH: "It's just that they have faith and hope that our lawmakers are sufficiently astute to formulate legislation which will prevent mission-creep." - well that'll be a first!

Anyway when the parameters are subjective they will always be challengeable.

[Old_Geezer]

Not wanting to carry on with severe mental problems seems perfectly reasonable to me. Pain isn't just physical. Provided alternatives have been tried, it still should be personal choice.

[Untitled]

how anyone could look at the present group of "our lawmakers" and believe they were up to this task is beyond me. 

[Khandro]

Untitled //in the netherlands assisted dying has been extended to the mentally ill.//

Don't tell me they're now exterminating Socialists !

[Togo]

The wicked list.

Cabinet members and notables.
Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer
Chancellor Rachel Reeves
Former prime minister Rishi Sunak
Former chancellor Jeremy Hunt
Home Secretary Yvette Cooper
Defence Secretary John Healey
Work and Pensions Secretary Liz Kendall
Northern Ireland Secretary Hilary Benn
Science Secretary Peter Kyle
Energy Secretary Ed Miliband
Culture Secretary Lisa Nandy
Environment Secretary Steve Reed
Solicitor General Sarah Sackman
Wales Secretary Jo Stevens
Chief Whip Sir Alan Campbell
Cabinet Office minister Pat McFadden
Lib Dem deputy leader Daisy Cooper
Plaid Cymru leader Liz Saville Roberts
Former deputy PM Oliver Dowden
Former health secretary Victoria Atkins

There were 273 Labour MPs. 23 Conservative MPs. 61 Lib Dem MPs. 3 Plaid Cymru MPs. £ REform MPs. 4 Green MPs. 1 Social Democrat and 1 Independant. 

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/full-list-how-did-your-mp-vote-on-assisted-dying-law/

[Togo]

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[Togo]

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[Rosetta]

The first bit of mission creep I anticipate is the rquirement that the "patient" is able to self administer the fatal dose. How long will it be before people with conditions that make them completely immobile challenge the self administer rule is discriminatory, conditions like motor neurone disease, severe MS, Severe Parkinsons Disease or Huntingdons   Chorea?