Are You

[TWR]

Behind the Jnr Dockers / Student strike? I am 100% behind them.

[Gavmacp]

? Do you mean Doctors?

[Mosaic]

I am 100% behind the right of anyone to strike as it was a bitterly won right.

[Prudie]

Predictive text TWR? I didn't think there were any dockers left :-)
As for the doctors it's a difficult one.

[Baldric]

Dockers on strike now, that'll hit the economy if it goes on for long

[Sqad]

Doctors?

No I am NOT.

They are junior doctors.......JUNIOR and they are still in training, it is an apprenticeship and as such they do what they are told.

Can you imagine an apprentice in the private sector, shouting the odds and dictating the terms of apprenticeship.

[TWR]

Doctors Even.

[dannyk13]

I'm with Sqad,this will have an adverse effect on the sick,there are already cancellations of appointments.

[Zacs-Master]

No. They're abusing their privilidge and it is contrary to what should be an irresistible vocation to care for others.

[Gavmacp]

Someone sent me a graph showing different salaries MP's appear to be doing rather well , whereas junior doctors salaries appear to of gone down.

[Islay]

Nope, I watched an interview with the head of the union? and she was so cocky one of her quotes were 'we have been in training since we did out GCSE's'!!

They are trainee's and until they are fully trained then they have to do the time!!

[Mosaic]

But many times when attending hospital I'm sure I've been seen by a junior ie trainee doctor, seemed to be working on their own unsupervised?

[Baldric]

No, no support for them at all. They are being trained for what, for most of them, will be a very well paid career. If they can't cope with that training they have the option to leave.

[Gavmacp]

If they can't cope they will accidentally kill you! I do rather feel sorry for them!

[Togo]

//Predictive text TWR?//

Could have been Donkeys.

[Peter Pedant]

Sqad lives on in the Sixties with dear old Sir Launcelot Spratt and a glorious living in Harley St, the ministry or a Royal College

but things move on

There are already on call residents at the Hospitals and they will continue to turn up and work. Admission day - you now get 60 - yes sixty Sqad I imagine at st swithins you had no more than five in your day.

and then when you were a consultant - your registrar had no more than 10 whilst perhaps your colleagues were down the prive or on the golf course.

week ends are absolutely chaotic 2015 and the young doctors are often supervised by locums who will say 'I am only here for 12 h so you are really on your own'

it is madness to try to extend the service to normal operating hours in these circumstances.

In 1985 a third of the operating at the local children hospital was done out of hours and at week ends by juniors - it is only the resilience of the children that more didnt die .... [ so let's go back to that ....]

I spent 6 pm to 4 am on a hospital trolley in November along with five other admissions in A+E - well at least I wasnt in a corridor - and the admitting registrar refused to see us as he couldnt monitor treatment, so he said he wouldnt start it....
[ you will note that this is in direct contradiction to what a minister said the other day ]

[Sqad]

LOL......oh! dear PP you are really misinformed and can only assume that you have never been a doctor at any level I'm the NHS.

For the first 2 years after qualification, I never went to bed on the same day that I awoke. OP,s 40 or 50 patients were routine , operating sessions always full and interesting. Relations between nursing staff and doctors, showed mutual respect, eggs and bacon at 2 am in the kitchen after emergency operations.
It was the best years of my life as a junior doctor.
I could go on....

[stuey]

Is the term "junior doctor" equivalent to "intern" over here?

[tonyav]

Yes, stuey.

[stuey]

OK, thanks. Students going on strike?

[DaisyNonna]

One is being urged to find an alternative
Such as?