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Ratter, she did say it looks scruffy and mangey. Barmaid, from what she says, this thing is a damned good climber. It climbs up her 6ft fence from the garden at the bottom of sis's garden. It even manages to get on shed roofs.
She doesn't have a dog herself, but there is a dog one side of her, and a cat the other side.
Hopefully, she has bought some Jeyes fluid today, we usually chat in the evenings on the phone, I will ask.
VE - thanks for your understanding on this matter :)