Collars with zappers??

[Metz]

Just been reading some Qs and this was mentioned..can we buy it in the UK? It sounds an awful thing!! Never heard of it before .... Only being nosy wouldn't dream of using it on my dogs!! :o) Surely something like this should be banned?

[james_m246]

They're meant for kids.

[kita1]

I think they can be bought in the UK (certainly over the internet). I also think the KC were trying to get them banned a little while ago. Some behaviourists have used them (with success) to stop dogs from worrying sheep. They only use them in extreme cases where the only other option was putting the dog to sleep.

The danger comes when they get into the wrong hands and they are used for the wrong reasons, as in the question that I think you read, where someone was advocating using one for a dog that would not come back. How giving a dog an electric shock would encourage it to return to its owner I don't understand!!

Similar are the electric fences used with collars. The dog gets a shock off the collar when it attempts to go across the invisible barrier. As the dog is now outside the fence it is going to get a shock when it returns to its garden!! Cannot see the logic myself!!

I do think that the collars should be banned, to be honest if a dog is so unsafe around sheep and the owners are incapable of keeping it on a lead then the dog should be rehomed to a town home or, as harsh as it may sound, put to sleep.

There are far too many idiots around who would use them in a cruel way for their twisted pleasure.

[lankeela]

The Kennel Club have been campaigning to get them banned. They even attended the Labour Party Conference to get MP's to support the campaign. Here are some comments:

The Kennel Club inflicts pain and suffering at the Labour Party Conference
05-Oct-06

Universal shock at collars� use and availability in the UK

At the Labour party conference, as part of its campaign to get the barbaric shock collar banned, the Kennel Club demonstrated its use to politicians and delegates.

100% of visitors to the stand expressed absolute horror that these products were available for purchase in the UK and complete bewilderment, disbelief and at times anger towards the government that these products were not already banned.

For those brave enough to have the product tested on their hand at a third of the collars power - and not the neck where it would be worn by the dog! - the following comments were made by some:

Garry Ratcliffe, Greater Manchester Police: "It�s cruel and horrific."
Julian Greenhalgh, First Aid Officer, GMEX: "That hurt! I just can't believe that people would use them."
Richard Angel, Labour Student: "People who train dogs should not be allowed to use barbaric treatment on man�s best friend."
Luke Sherlock, delegate: "I wouldn't use it on my own dog because it really hurts!"
John Thompson, Labour Party Conference Official Photographer: "Ouch! That is horrible".
Said Caroline Kisko, Kennel Club Secretary: "Observers were outraged by what they witnessed and were genuinely angry and expressed disbelief that these products were not already banned in the UK. Some of the visitors even thought that this was some sort of elaborate practical joke, and took some convincing that the product was real. However, when they believed us they were far from amused."

[Nickynoodles]

Some friends of ours use a collar but instead of the evil bolt of electric - it squirts a little water - which really did work on their dog, Now all they have to do is put the collar on and she expects it to squirt her - Much more pleasant!!!

[lankeela]

The Kennel Club last week also attended the Conservative Party Conference. Here is an extract of their press release:


The Kennel Club demonstrated to MPs and delegates the barbaric electric shock collar and there was unanimous agreement that the electric shock collar was not only painful but was also cruel and unnecessary. Below are comments from several MPs who were brave enough to be shocked by the collar at one third of its full power:

� Richard Benyon MP: �That�s horrible. I�ve heard both arguments from my constituents, but that was certainly painful and as a dog owner I definitely would not use one.�


� Graham Stuart MP (who was not initially in favour of a total ban) said: �That felt really bad I have to say and gives you pause for thought. I�ve heard the arguments but I would be extremely reluctant to want to see an animal with that round its neck.�
� Roger Gale MP: �This demonstration proves that the use of electric shock collars is not a satisfactory way to train an animal. I would like to see changes in the Animal Welfare Bill to outlaw these products.�
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� Mr Roger Baker, Joint Chairman of the Conservative Animal Welfare Group and a practising vet said: �I am horrified that electric shock collars are available. They should not be used on dogs in any circumstances. If you need this sort of cruelty to keep dogs under control then you shouldn�t own an animal.�

Said Caroline Kisko, Kennel Club Secretary: �The Kennel Club is heartened that so many MPs are in favour of a complete ban on electric shock collars. This shows that the issue of shock collars goes beyond party lines and that there is cross party support for a complete ban on their sale and use.

[demondragon]

thats just animal cruelty!