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Can anyone please tell me what would you call a Labrodor crossed with a poodle please
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tell your hubby he is a dog snob!!!!(only joking)
by the way a labradoodle is a recognised breed now and they command a very high price.
also every modern breed of dog is a mongrel as every modern breed is an end result of cross breeding .
as for my current best friend he is a bitza terrier!
bitza this and bitza that, but he is a little belter!!!!!
by the way a labradoodle is a recognised breed now and they command a very high price.
also every modern breed of dog is a mongrel as every modern breed is an end result of cross breeding .
as for my current best friend he is a bitza terrier!
bitza this and bitza that, but he is a little belter!!!!!
What org now recognizes the labradoodle? I know AKC doesn't here in USA. There is no standard yet. UKC recognizes anything canine, if you send them money they accept it. Papers on a dog is like a social security number, it doesn't mean they're bad or good quality, just that there is a pce of paper on them, and someone paid money to get the papers filed.
i did not comment on good or bad quality , i stated they are a recognised breed and command a high price, which is a true statement.(i did not say they were recognised by any kennel club)
i have just had a look at the akc site and like you said papers on a dog mean nothing other than someone has paid money to register a dog , and the akc site is more money orientated than any british one.
i take it by ukc you mean kcuk the original kennel club,and for your information registering with them is just as thorough as with the akc, but at the end of the day both will accept dogs of purebreed regardless of quality , health etc as long as their heritage can be traced back through the records.
and both sites do offer an approved breeder scheme if you wish to source that little bit of extra quality in a dog.
but like i said in my original reply every modern breed was a mongrel at some time before they got recognised.
i have just had a look at the akc site and like you said papers on a dog mean nothing other than someone has paid money to register a dog , and the akc site is more money orientated than any british one.
i take it by ukc you mean kcuk the original kennel club,and for your information registering with them is just as thorough as with the akc, but at the end of the day both will accept dogs of purebreed regardless of quality , health etc as long as their heritage can be traced back through the records.
and both sites do offer an approved breeder scheme if you wish to source that little bit of extra quality in a dog.
but like i said in my original reply every modern breed was a mongrel at some time before they got recognised.
It's okay, I really wanted to know who recognizes them as a "breed", they are not recognized by any clubs or org's so just because you or I call them Labradoodle it doesn't mean they are a breed, they are Hybrids, or mongrels or mutts we call them, the crossing of 2 recognized breeds, lab and poodle, which use to be accidental, now they do it on purpose and the only reason they charge so much is because ppl keep paying the price. I know quite a few ppl who went to the shelter and got one for $100 dollars, standard fee. I don't know your UK kennel club, but the AKC or UKC does not go out and check breeder farms or kennels nor do they make sure the paperwork is from the correct male or female being bred, they look at the number next to the animals name and if that number is registered with them, then they register the litter. No one goes out to check, to much fraud is going on, unless the kennel club org checks then all your getting is a number for your pup (ie..soc.sec number sorta), it doesn't mean they are good or bad is what I was trying to say.
I know someone who took an unregistered min pn and he gave it his registered dogs number and bred him to the female so he could get new blood into his program that no one would know, puppies have the number registered as his male not the unregistered one, unless someone DNA checks them no one will know. I did report it.
But I say (IMHO) labradoodle is still not a breed, until someone recognizes it and it has some sort of standard set, like all other dogs developed and records are meticulously kept, it is not recognized as a breed, it's a lab/poodle mix or cross, it just has a cute name.
I know someone who took an unregistered min pn and he gave it his registered dogs number and bred him to the female so he could get new blood into his program that no one would know, puppies have the number registered as his male not the unregistered one, unless someone DNA checks them no one will know. I did report it.
But I say (IMHO) labradoodle is still not a breed, until someone recognizes it and it has some sort of standard set, like all other dogs developed and records are meticulously kept, it is not recognized as a breed, it's a lab/poodle mix or cross, it just has a cute name.
A mongrel!
You can call them what you like, they are still not a recognised breed. What happens in the next generation? If you mate them to a poodle then they are three quarters poodle, if you mate them to a labrador they are three quarters labrador, if you mate them to another labradoodle they are still only half and half.
New breeds that have been 'created' have been done so under strict conditions, keeping records and bringing in new blood in the first generation, then reverting to the original breed, otherwise there is no progress, as the puppies will be of such different types in every generation.
These 'designer' breeds are fine if people know what they are taking on, but without the background of the purebred breed you won't know what you are going to end up with.
And as for the tw*ts who pay a fortune (often more than the price of one of the purebreds) for a mongrel puppy then more fool them! And please don't try to tell me they will be more healthy - genetically if one or both of the breeds has a problem it can be passed on. For instance, both labs and poodles can suffer from inherited eye conditions and bad hips.
You can call them what you like, they are still not a recognised breed. What happens in the next generation? If you mate them to a poodle then they are three quarters poodle, if you mate them to a labrador they are three quarters labrador, if you mate them to another labradoodle they are still only half and half.
New breeds that have been 'created' have been done so under strict conditions, keeping records and bringing in new blood in the first generation, then reverting to the original breed, otherwise there is no progress, as the puppies will be of such different types in every generation.
These 'designer' breeds are fine if people know what they are taking on, but without the background of the purebred breed you won't know what you are going to end up with.
And as for the tw*ts who pay a fortune (often more than the price of one of the purebreds) for a mongrel puppy then more fool them! And please don't try to tell me they will be more healthy - genetically if one or both of the breeds has a problem it can be passed on. For instance, both labs and poodles can suffer from inherited eye conditions and bad hips.
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