Thanks again crete. The thread's gone! Some may look upon me as "Obsessed" over Ward but I know Im not and so do you..I hope.lol. I fail to see how he can hurl abuse and venom at user's and NOT be banned. Maybe a phone call to Crystal Guide's is in order as the AB ED takes no notice of anyone no matter what the issue. Obviously Ward's dedicated minion's will disagree but what the heck. BtW did you know I'm now a "Kiddy Fiddler" just like poor whiffey? and that's official cos Ward say's so:-))