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Vincent Van Gogh
We have a debate, what is the correct pronunciation of the surname?
"van goff'
'van go'
'varn go'
as one site suggests: 'varn gich' or 'varn gach'
or are the Dutch g's like h's as in Ruud Gullet (Hulett)?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.For an authentic Dutch pronunciation you need a voiceless velar fricative (aka phlegmy sound) front and back. Have a look at the entry in Wikipedia.
Kempie, you sneaked your post in while I was writing mine. Had I read yours I would have remained respectfully silent. The author of your article has obviously spent more time thinking about this than the rest of us. Many thanks for the link.
RogK, although 'X' in the International Phonetic Alphabet is a velar fricative (see diagram in Kempie's post), I prefer the voiced alveolar fricative (as Xerxes). It doesn't make quite the same mess on the carpet.
And while we're on the subject, does anyone else think that "phlegmy" is just about the ugliest word in the written language?
Octavius, if you want to be taken seriously by the good burghers of Amsterdam, you could probably do worse than use the standard Dutch pronunciation (Wikipedia).
I think this is certainly preferable to the American variant "Van Go".
The recent Channel 4 documentary - Vincent, The Full Story- pronounced it Goff which is really the best way to go about it. When we say we're going to Paris on holiday we don't say "I'm going to Paree" like the French! Likewise to make phlegmy sounds when pronouncing Van Gogh is simply unnecessary and a bit pretentious. It is also now believed that Van Gogh himself pronounced it "Goff" but how anyone can be sure of this is a mystery to me!