Grammar One For You To Debate.

[DTCwordfan]

Is it 'Lost in Translation.' or 'Lost in Translation'. (forget the question mark here). What I am talking about is to the position of the full-stop or comma relative to the single quotation marks. Is it different for full quotation marks as in "?

Thanks.....

[bednobs]

what's the full sentence?
i would say outside the quotes, single or double

[bhg481]

I would put the full stop outside the quotation marks; it finishes the sentence.

[bookbinder]

If the whole of the sentence or phrase is contained within the quotation marks, the full stop also should be contained within the quotation marks.

[MargoTester]

Outside for both.

[Peter Pedant]

House style
The answer is that it depends on House Style

May be answered in Plain Words by Gowers 1951. The civil servants for whom Plain Words was originally written really agonised over
The Times's opinion....
If the times was in Italic - then was the 's also in Italic or normal

jesus - that is what the men in the Ministry agonised about when they were reconstructing this country for heroes to live in

[elliemay1]

Outside IMO

[Ellipsis]

When I was taught this, a long time ago, I was taught inside the quotes for British English, outside for US English.

These days I'd agree with PP ... house style.

[Peter Pedant]

doesnt need a full stop as it is a phrase without a main verb
( techno speak for some of the other answers)

[Peter Pedant]

thank you ellipsi
thx for reading and not jus' finking - o god that man again - skippit

[DTCwordfan]

Peter, I've just lifted a phrase out as an example and I haven't written a full sentence as in
I was watching Sophia Lauren's Oscar-earning debut as a director 'Lost in Translation'.

Why I ask is that I am probably mixing up American and English rules on this, my natural thinking leaning to Translation'. but I have a niggling suspicion that it ought to be the quotation mark after the full stop or if there was a comma.

[DTCwordfan]

House style it may be - but it could be a kop-out....consistency though, I agree with.

[Peter Pedant]

I have difficulty enough being er clear wivvart wondering if the inverted comma is the right way round or not

a ubject I will NOT lose sleep over - - but perhaps I should

[Jackdaw33]

Simple rule:- full stop, comma outside, ? and ! inside.

[DTCwordfan]

I'll send over the sherry bottle - that should help you enter the wonderful world of soporific snoring!

[DTCwordfan]

Jackdaw - thank you - that also makes speech easier....as in ..."I think it was 'Lost in Translation'."

[MargoTester]

https://style.mla.org/the-placement-of-a-comma-or-period-after-a-quotation/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx8_K-eaw8gIVFbd3Ch0P8AfVEAAYASAAEgIBP_D_BwE

[DTCwordfan]

Thanks Margo....

[jno]

unless the title of the film Lost in Translation includes a full stop, I wouldn't put it inside the quote marks, since you're not quoting it.

That makes ths one a problem

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91e+qebvTML._SL1500_.jpg

They deliberately gave it a full stop because the book had one

https://i2.wp.com/www.raptisrarebooks.com/images/81507/emma-a-novel-by-the-author-of-pride-and-prejudice-jane-austen-first-edition.jpg?fit=962%2C800&ssl=1

But that does make it look rather Georgian.

[jno]

you were looking at Sofia Coppola and thinking of Sophia Loren? Tch, these old men.

[DTCwordfan]

yes, that's true..! I was just using the title as an example.....I'm not quite the Sophia Loren generation!!