Professor

[Barmaid]

A good mate of mine has recently been under the care of a consultant at Moorfields Eye Hospital. This chap is now a Professor. What does one do/achieve in order to become a Professor? My friend asked me this on the phone and I had to say "no idea"!

[Mosaic]

In the UK the title professor refers to someone who is the head of a university department.
Unlike many other parts of the world, where it is an automatic title given to any graduate teacher.

[Psybbo]

Good lord, I thought the highest was Mr

[Mosaic]

That's the perverseness of hospital consultants Sibbers. They want to be called Mr because this distinguished them from lowly doctors back int' day.

[Sqad]

A professor is a full time academic post with, depending upon the specialty,clinical responsibilities...operating and patient care. There are "chairs" throughout the UK and professors are appointed permanent or honorary to recognize proficiency mainly to to research in their allotted fields.

[Barmaid]

So the fact that he is now a Professor means that he is lecturing others? That's fine. We just wondered.

[tonyav]

No sibo, you must be thinking of sqad lol.

[Sqad]

Mosiac

\\\\That's the perverseness of hospital consultants Sibbers. They want to be called Mr because this distinguished them from lowly doctors back int' day.\\

Not so !

[Barmaid]

thanks Sqad, your answer wasn't there when I posted. We thought it might be the same in Law, but we weren't sure.

[Psybbo]

Barmaid, have you got a title?

[FredPuli43]

Yes, a surgeon is Mr and of higher status than plain Dr but I notice that specialist surgeons who deal with foreigners, such as at the Cromwell, have Dr on their business cards and invoices. No doubt 'Mr' is not appreciated by their patients, who may think they are being treated by the doorman! Some specialist are also Professors though

[pastafreak]

Barmaid
Question Author
So the fact that he is now a Professor means that he is lecturing others? That's fine. We just wondered.

He would have started lecturing others when he was either a Reader,or a Lecturer...several rungs down the academic ladder.

[Barmaid]

lol Sibton, yes apparently, but not one I care to repeat on here!!!!!!

[Psybbo]

Barmaid, that must mean you're really good at your jub. LOL

[DTCwordfan]

Her Imperial Judgeness......

[sunny-dave]

Two pints, a bag of nuts and a habeas corpus ...

[Sqad]

All doctors who posses the post graduate degree of F.R.C.S fellowship of the Royal college of Surgeons can take the title of Mr.

This only applies in the UK with the exception of Scotland where surgeons still retain the title of Dr.

When guilds were formed, anyone taking and passing a degree were given professional status where other non graduates were craftsmen or tradesmen.
This posed a problem, as surgeons never took an examination learning their craft by paying a recognized surgeon to be his "apprentice" and when the "boss " thought he was ready, then the pupil was appointed Consultant Surgeon to a hospital.

So what was to become of our surgeons?

It was decided that they shoudl be admitted into the "Barbers Guild" as barbers in those days "let blood"....and it is now known as the Barbers and Surgeons guild and our surgeon remains MR. because of this.

[FredPuli43]

The day will come, BM, when you're the Right Honourable the Lady Justice Barmaid but for now you'll have to settle for being a right something. Still, at least you're 'right' either way.

[pastafreak]

Sqad...wasn't there a point very early in modern medical history where barbers and surgeons were one and the same?

[douglas9401]

(Whispers something about a few close shaves.) :)

[Sqad]

pasta......no idea.........probably way back....anyone could have a go.

Barbers provided "blood letting" and surgeons did the "hacking."