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Bbbananas | 13:43 Wed 25th Aug 2010 | Health & Fitness
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A 53 year old man. 17 stone with all the fat around his middle - a big beer belly in fact (though slim(ish) everywhere else.).
Smokes 20 to 30 a day. Drinks too much, especially beer and wine. Has a sedentary job. Has abused his body over the years by not lifting heavy weights in the proper manner etc.
Blood pressure 190/100.
Chronic low back pain. Developing prostate problems. Chest pain.

Would you want to be in his shoes? What would you do in his family's shoes, bearing in mind the man himself has no inclination to stop smoking or drinking?
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My Dad Salla...

Although he had a physical job...

In his family's shoes...Nothing, until you're told they are going to die. When you love someone you don't really notice how bad things are.
Don't buy him a 2011 calendar for Xmas.
kick him out in his Y fronts
What can his family do if he won't do anything about it. Except perhaps prepare themselves.

There are an awful lot of men around like you describe and men can be very dismissive or ostrich about their health.
Nice one Tambo....you're a gem.
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he doesn't give a rats@rse how he looks tambo - he thinks he's still irresistable to the ladies.

McM - this is body & soul - not CB, you insensitive rat.

Ummm - he had a physical job (farming) for 30 years, it's only been the last 6 that have been sedentary.

Lottie - even though he jokes as though his days are numbered (he's 53!!!!), he thinks he's invincible.
It won't happen to them Salla.... :-(

I don't know how big my Dad was...about 17/18 stone...all belly. His nickname was 'The Bellycatcher' (smile) He was still looking for 'The Start' even though he'd been given months to live...

Who's this person Salla?
you can bet if his wife wasn't up to scratch he'd catch the first plane to Thailand
My Dad was 59...
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Tambo - But I have always been up to scratch....... ;-)

This man is my one-day-to-be-ex-husband. I still care about the old sod, despite the past. Family's family. The way he's going he will never make ex-status - I shall be a widow, twice estranged, three times very strange.

He would lose weight & stop drinking if I went back to him, so he says. That is SO not going to happen, but I don't really want the old sc0te to die. yet.
He's probably got a few years left

http://gosset.wharton...ty/perl/CalcForm.html
they're not all like your dad, ummmm.

Everyone's dads are more special then other males
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Ummmm's dad meant the world to her, as mine does to me.

Nah - this is me ex-sparring partner. I wouldn't be quite so bothered if only he'd kept that life insurance policy up to date ;-)
Simple..... he will be lucky to reach retirement age without having a stroke or heart attack either of which could be fatal.

What can you actively do about it?..Nothing.......just tell him that unless he seeks medical advice, he is going to die within the next 5or 6 years.
None had a better, more talented, handsome, intelligent, caring dad than mine !
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That's what I tell him sqad.
The man's as stubborn as an ox - says he doesn't want to reach 'old age' if it means him being an invalid. personally I think that a degree of depression is behind a lot of his attitude (he still pines for me & tries to get me back, after 5 years....).

Oh well, I'd better be the one to restart the life insurance. Ta x
and he served this country well & was commended.
Just pity he didn't produce a daughter with an ounce of sense eh Tambo...???!!!
My Dad.

64 years old, weighs 22 Stone, Smokes 50-60 aday. Eats crap, Has insulin dependant diabetes, stressful job, this has been a way of life for him since he was nineteen years old. Was told 18months ago that he needs a bypass has he changed his lifestyle? No. Will he? No. Still has not had his bypass, now talking about a stent. I guess they don't want to spend money on someone who is not willing to change. And frankly I don't blame them.

And you know what, I bet he lives to a ripe old age.
Ultimately his decision. Mr LL had a heart attack last year. He wasn't particularly overweight (carried too much around his middle though), doesn't smoke and is not a huge drinker. BP normal. No diabetes. Was also active, but not the right sort of active apparently (not enough aerobic activity). However, he was a workacholic and liked his meat. Tended to snack on pies during his working day (which involves driving long distances and garages or good places to pick up a pie). I sort of knew it would happen. Fortunately, although a massive heart attack, he got immediate attention and a stent fitted within 1.5 hrs.

It has been a massive wake up call. He now walks briskly for at least a couple of miles a day, has changed the pie eating habits and is now actually too thin (in my opinion, but not medically). He is actually more healthy than he has been for years.

I wish he had listened to me, but he knew better. However, who knows. It may have happened anyway. My grandad died at 90, he smoked, drank whiskey every day and did no physical exercise. We really can't predict, I suppose.

Men will never listen and tend to be ostrich about their health and ignore any symptoms!!

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