FP.s pregnant tums post

[graemer]

Hi FP, I've been trying to submit an answer to your "exposed pregnant tums" post below but for some reason can't get it to work.

Basically as a male approaching your age bracket I'm appalled at the responses, especially, quote:

"not just a "grumpy old lady" thing, I think it provokes the same reaction from�anyone with a sense of decency".
Hello Queen Victoria!


Personally I delight in the sight of pregnant women who don't feel the need to hide behind huge tents as if they had something shameful to hide. I love to see women able to enjoy the beach and sun wearing a two piece that allows the sun and air to reach them as any other.
I love it that kids today get used to the sight and and it's not some mystery to be hidden anway in polite society.
Instead of being so proudly grumpy and anxious to get yourselves to the old age home before your time, why not rejoice in the young and the freedoms that were denied us?

[magicdice]

that would be a quote from my response - let's just bear in mind that i am by no stretch of the imagination a "grumpy old woman", i'm a seventeen year old girl

where i live, girls who show off their bump generally do so in the most tasteless way ever. i'm not suggesting that they should be completely concealed under a big tent, i'm just saying that a miniskirt & skimpy top with a seriously pregnant bump sticking out isn't what i would deem appropriate maternitywear. topshop & dorothy perkins seem to have nice ranges of clothes that don't try desperately hard to conceal the bump but also don't leave it hanging out. it's a personal dislike of mine, and that is my opinion, okay?

[Robinia]

Well said magicdice - nice to have a young 'un on our side.

graemer we grumpy old women will be needing a coach driver for our day trips, any offers?

[FP]

As I said is my posting, girls should be proud to be pregnant.  My thoughts on this have nothing to do with girls being 'ashamed' or hiding their bump.  I just think it looks incredibly ugly to wear an outfit that I have described.  And I find it horrible to see a belly button sticking out (as they do when you are pregant) with a piercing through it.  How is this natural! 

Yes, I agree, it is great to be able to wear a bikini on the beach if you are pregnant.  I have never suggested that girls should hide their bumps under gross maternity smocks. 

Note magicdice feels the same and she is only 17.

Graemer, have you no sense of humour?  The grumpy old lady thing and retirement home is a big joke and is aimed at ourselves!  Chill out.

[FP]

And Graemer - I wear very modern clothes, enjoy having way out hair styles, enjoy rock music and attend my fair share of gigs.  If you have read my postings on this site, I have always been very quick to support the younger generation and in fact have lots of young friends and have acted as a mentor.  I  consider myself very young at heart and am proud to be so.  I shall be 58 in April.

However, I dislike the fact that a pregnant bump seems to be a fashion item these days, and the bare bumps seen around the street in the middle of winter seem to be more prolific amongst the 15-17 year agegroup!

Rant over.

Best Wishes

[FP]

And graemer I had far more freedom in the 60's than the poor kids do nowadays!    Most of us had no cares at all.  Loads of jobs, no worries and free love (no AIDS).  I actually feel very sorry that this freedom has been lost and that the kids are so stressed out.

[Robinia]

Matron!  Matron!!   - FP's spat her teeth out again!

[FP]

Morning Robinia!

See you in the BOAS.

How about ABGOWS  (AnswerBank Grumpy Old Women's Society)

[graemer]

Magidice, sure you can have an opinion, that's what the site is about...I just can't believe that you are dictating what is appropriate maternity wear.
Robinia I'd love to be you coach dtriver but surely we'd fight over who reads the maps!
And FP I have a great sense of humour otherwise i wouldn't have even dared entered this post. (picks up bitten off head and vows to follow quizmonster's advice)

[FP]

Us old women enjoy a good rant Graemer!  You can make me sit a the back of the coach!  First outing will be to the next Darkness gig and you can join us! 

[magicdice]

"deem, v. tr. To have as an opinion; judge. To regard as; consider."

i'm not dictating anything, just expressing my views, much as everyone else has in both this thread and the preceding one. but thank you for being so courteous as to completely discount my views but to offer me the right to an (incorrect, apparently) opinion nonetheless

[FP]

Graemer, why were you appalled at the responses? There was nothing terrible being said.  Appalled was a bit strong!  And I have to back up Magicdice on this, she didn't dictate anything, just expressed her thoughts.  Did we catch you having a grumpy old man moment? :o)

[netibiza]

Dear FP how right you are - like you I've been there done it and got the scars - and boy did I enjoy every minute of the 60's. Showing naked bumps are on a par with showing thongs eh right?  Its tasteless.  We should know.  I was in a restaurant last summer when a very pregnant girl sat at next table with a huge bare belly and yes it put me right off as there is no need - and it was quite a posh place - no one said anything. And I also reserve my right to be a grumpy old lady - I've earned it.

[Kay]

Hi graemer, Im also one of "Proudly Grumpy" clan who posted in on this topic. I will be 57 in June and like FP and many others of my age I wear fashionable clothes,love music of all kinds.I too was a 60's teen and boy,did we have fun! We also set the trend for mini skirts.Maternity wear was also fashionable,come on lighten up:--)))

[Lindy Loo]

graemer
I am a slightly younger 'grumpy' to FP and netibiza but not a lot and also like to wear fashionable clothes, listening to rock music etc. Rammstein is my current favourite!!

Nobody was dictating what expectant mums should wear, we were expressing an opinion on what bare pregnant tums look like.

When I was expecting my sons I wore dungarees... the bump was there and very visible but just not exposed to the fresh air! If I was in the same position now I'd still make the same choices of dress as I did then.

Personally, I think that exposed bumps and visible thongs (a past Q from FP) are just as nausating to look at as exposed 'builders bums' and 'beer bellies'!!

[tracymort]

As we seem to be sharing musical tastes too i love Mooney Suzuki!

Anyway i see nothing wrong or nauseating about a bump. Babies are gorgeous, having a baby is wonderful and so is a bump. And yes i think breastfeeding is gorgeous too and have no idea why people find the sight of a baby getting the best start in life offensive.

[netibiza]

Like tracymort I have absolutely no objection to breastfeeding in public - it's natural - only object to showoffs who like to shock!!!

[FP]

Traceymort - I also find it extremely offensive when men with huge beer guts expose them in public places.  Fine on the beaches, but I don't want to see them!

There is nothing offensive about a pregnant bump, they are a joy -  but looking at them in the high street completely exposed right down to the pubes is not on. 

I see nothing wrong with breast feeding in public places, but I would find it tasteless to walk down a public street with no top on, whilst breastfeeding.

Remember that other people have sensibilities as well!

[RevShirls]

Graemer, I delight too in the sight of pregnant women but I do feel that many (particularly young girls) use their bump as a fashion statement - even to the point of endangering their babies. You talk about beaches. That is one thing but I live in sweden now and that's another thing! When I was pregnant (2002) my bump was usually properly covered up when I was out. Of course, the temperature was -20 degrees for many of the months - but even here there were some young girls who flaunted their bare bumps even in such temperatures because it is a fashion statement and nothing about being instinctive earth mothers. Breastfeeding in public has never been frowned on here and there is a very relaxed and open and comfortable atmosphere about it - and that is great!

[graemer]

Pregnant pause! (Can't wait for our bus outing though, they'll here us coming for miles!)

Cheers everyone

[graemer]

oops can't believe I typed 'here' instead of hear! It's my big fat beer belly getting in the way!