Which Religions Prohibit Lying?

[Hypognosis]

Simple question. Should be a simple answer.

Or....?

[Svejk]

I know one that promotes it. No prizes for guessing which one practices taqiyya.

[Hypognosis]

Quite so, Svejk.

Last time I read about it, the idea was that it is okay to lie in order to save your own skin, such as when taken captive. Makes you wonder about the context in which admitting that you were a Muslim (under duress) was a hazardous thing to do. What had they done to provoke such ire, in foreign lands?

But the answer to that is off topic. Save it for after we've got a shortlist of non-lying faiths, eh?

[murraymints]

bless me father for I have sinned.....but it wiz only a wee yin ! lol....

[Hypognosis]

Hi Minty

Catholicism has confession but does it prohibit lying to ordinary people (ie non-priests)?

[ladyalex]

You're not supposed to bear false witness if you are Judaio-Christian.
Does that count as lying?

[Old_Geezer]

In a less than perfect world, hopefully none of them. One cannot do what is best in every circumstance by always giving correct information.

Maybe if there's one with a strict "no speaking" requirement perhaps ?

[Hypognosis]

@ladyalex

Thanks. False witness was the better search term.

http://www.openbible.info/topics/bearing_false_witness


It is funny how relations with the neighbours merited the opinion of a deity, two millenia ago.*

* older written documents (clay tablets) concerning neighbourly disputes do exist. Cave paintings do not. Such is civilisation and progress.

[Old_Geezer]

I think that there is a difference between a never-lying faith, which would be extreme, and a non-lying faith, which accepts regrettably the need to lie sometimes in order to do the least wrong option.

Reference to non-lying faiths risks setting up a reference to lying-faiths, and the unreasonable implication that religions are all liars. I'm sure you'll want to make clear that, that isn't the intent.

[Hypognosis]

@Old_Geezer

//Maybe if there's one with a strict "no speaking" requirement perhaps ?//

I can't wait.



Hang on. If you're not permitted to talk, how do you preach?

Or are you thinking of Wyld Stallyons?

[Old_Geezer]

It was just a thought, maybe there are none. I'd guess one bombards with leaflets and other written literature. Maybe videos on the website ? Whether the written word allows one to lie again might make any mute religion not an exception after all, is an interesting point.

[Hypognosis]

@Old_Geezer

My 05:48 and 05:51 were stacked on top of each other when the page reloaded after posting the second one.

Not for the first time, the forum software has inserted a post, albeit chronologically correctly, your 05:49, in between them, now that I tevisit the thread.

A very fast-growing thread the other day (an AOG special) was playing tricks like this. It pays to re-scan the most recent dozen posts to see what has been added upstream of where you've read to.

//Reference to non-lying faiths risks setting up a reference to lying-faiths, and the unreasonable implication that religions are all liars. I'm sure you'll want to make clear that, that isn't the intent.//

That's a twist I hadn't anticipated. And you have twisted my words there. I have not asked which faiths are lies, or which are lying or non-lying, as you put it, I asked which of them -prohibit- lying.

It didn't even make the final cut for the Ten Commandments, did it? I guess it is trivial compared to the rest but it is a thing which niggles at me.

You can watch some religious debate show and the Moslem spokesperson gets pinioned over an unpleasant edict and their first words are always "no, you've got that wrong, it is about...(xyz)" but, at the back of my mind is what Svejk pointed out in the first reply.

Sophistry in business dealings is advocated as well as in matters of faith, when dealing with infidels, such as us.