Hydrogen Peroxide Now Unvailable.

[gester]

where can I buy a small bottle for a mouthwash now.
is it now completely banned to the general public ?
can it be got on prescription?
can anybody help.

[sandyRoe]

Didn't some would-be bombers plan to use it?

[Patsy33]

Can't buy Oxy cream anymore. It was very good for getting rid of the odd spot on face!

[Togo]

//Doctors will no longer prescribe co-proxamol simply because a senior government figure used it to commit suicide. How pathetic//

At the moment Jackdaw it should be compulsory for all "senior government officials" (^_*)

[Jackdaw33]

LOL @ Togo.

[Togo]

Mamy chemistry is easy now for the deranged. The internet(dark web) gives kitchen instructions on how to make it lethal. Quantity to do so is the problem for the would be.

[Mamyalynne]

OK.

[Jackdaw33]

I expect soon that sprouts and baked beans will be outlawed on the grounds that they make you fart and destroy the ozone layer.

[Mamyalynne]

I rather think they would be trying to get their hands on Industrial strength Hydrogen Peroxide rather than nipping into Boots for a bottle of 3 %.

But then I'm neither a terrorist or a chemist.

[Togo]

Oy speak for yourself Jackdaw. ( Sorry gester for diverting a little)

[Togo]

Mamy a small amount will ignite a much less, willing to be ignited, explosive. Best stop here or have an early morning knock on the door.

[theprof]

Jackdaw33, isn't that exactly what big business is all about nowadays? There's far more profit to be made in selling new, expensive remedies than in old-fashioned stuff like hydrogen peroxide. Wall to wall advertising of new products has to be paid for by someone and that's us, the consumers.

Hydrogen Peroxide has indeed been used in bomb making for many years. However, the concentration of the Hydrogen Peroxide expressed in "volumes", is far greater than that encountered in medicinal use of the stuff. Medicinal concentration hydrogen peroxide is useless as an explosive as Mamyalynne implied

Togo, as a government advisor on chemical and biochemical matters, I do some moonlighting in military research facilities. I have some experience of accelerants and I can assure you that 3, 6 and 10 volume hydrogen peroxide are next to useless for explosive purposes regardless of pressure. Hydrogen peroxide is used in some industrial processes as an accelerant but the word is used more in the sense of a catalyst than a substance which increases the rate of the spread of fire. It's as well to remember that medicinal, low concentration hydrogen peroxide is unstable and decomposes readily to water. The process begins once the bottle is opened, which is the reason why people who use old hydrogen peroxide from the back of their cupboards wonder why it doesn't sting on application as it used to do.

ferlew, Europe has been responsible for many mad decisions, but even they have not been stupid enough to regard medicinal hydrogen peroxide as a bomb making component and remove it from sale.

I'd like to add though that you do need to be careful using Hydrogen peroxide on the skin. In the past, the stuff has entered body cavities where it can react with body fluids sometimes releasing copious amounts of oxygen. This can be very dangerous and should be avoided at all costs

[Mamyalynne]

Thanks for that Prof, clearer now - I gave up not having the terminology to express my points and presumed someone's greater knowledge on the topic.

[theprof]

The Dark Web eh? You don't want to believe everything you read believe me. Don't let these kitchen chemists convince you that they know what they're talking about. They have always been around and the internet has merely let more of them crawl out from beneath their stones. Query the number of fingers they have remaining on their hands to form a judgement on their competence.

Togo, a small amount of low volume H2O2 will NOT ignite a much less willing to be ignited explosive no matter how you use it. You are being mislead.

[EDDIE51]

Prof, somewhat beside the point but back in the late 1960s I was one of the team that were using 100 volume Hydrogen Peroxide for 'wet digestion' of polymers, mainly Polythene, at ICI research labs in Welwyn Garden City.
100 Vol is serious stuff !!!!

[theprof]

My pleasure Mamyalynne. I'm glad to have helped. Thank you.

[Mamyalynne]

Oh trust me, I certainly don't believe all I read - but often you offer common sense and it's knocked back.


Eddie, now that is heavy stuff.

[Togo]

Haha prof. but do tell how to take 3,6,10 hydrogen peroxide and turn it into it's much more volatile concentrated high test peroxide. Are you really saying that that is not possible to "turn" the less volatile oxidiser into a reactive oxidiser? Hmmm. My chem. teacher would swipe me for not listening.

[theprof]

Togo, regretfully, I will not provide you with the information you request.I know precisely how to do it but I will reveal that without specialised laboratory facilities, you can forget about it no matter what you read to the contrary.

I have no knowledge of your chemistry teacher, but I doubt very much if he or she had sufficient in depth knowledge to either support your view on this or tell you how to do it. They do not have the necessary expertise. Theoretical anecdotes announced in the classroom are just that - nothing but theory. Take it from me, I eat chemistry teachers for breakfast, having been a lecturer, senior lecturer, reader and professor of chemistry.

[theprof]

EDDIE51, that takes me back. 100 volume is really nasty stuff. I once spilt 50 ml of 100 volume on a workbench in an undergraduate lab and inadvertently, touched the stuff with my fingertips. The pain was excruciating and in hindsight, I'd have sooner dipped my fingers in oleum. My fingertips were bleached white and burnt for months and my fingernails fell out. Still, it cured my nailbiting and I've not chewed my nails since!

[EDDIE51]

^^ Yes we all got those 'white burns' on the fingers no matter how careful we were.