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Organ Donation, Presumed Consent.
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As the Government discuss changing the law regarding organ donation, are you for or against presumed consent. I have always carried a donor card and am registered, after my death they can have what ever they want. I can see a great benefit to ethnic minorities who are woefully under represented on the register. Can the health service afford all the extra transplants that will now be possible. A few points there, very interested in AB'ers views.
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At last - it's been far too long in coming. I hope that the "we still need to ask the relatives" issue gets booted into touch too. All it needs now is the final tweak that says "If you opt out, then you go to the back of the queue if you subsequently need a transplant"
16:31 Tue 12th Dec 2017
sunny-dave, it is a sad fact that we all have to die at some point but to wish a stranger would 'hurry up and die' so that a loved one may live is abhorrent to many.
My father was on the donor register for years but he refused to consider a transplant when he became ill and would not be persuaded.
We must all have the right to make our own decisions about these matters and if somebody has opted out of presumed consent and the paperwork goes missing it could be too late to stop the organ harvesting.
My father was on the donor register for years but he refused to consider a transplant when he became ill and would not be persuaded.
We must all have the right to make our own decisions about these matters and if somebody has opted out of presumed consent and the paperwork goes missing it could be too late to stop the organ harvesting.
I would never deny anyone the right to have full control over the use (or not) of their body after their death - to do so would be abhorrent to me.
I just feel that people need to make a decision on these matters (not just avoid the subject) and should also be aware that decisions can have consequences.
I just feel that people need to make a decision on these matters (not just avoid the subject) and should also be aware that decisions can have consequences.
That is quite hurtful, Hc.....not one of us wishes someone will hurry up and die so we or a family member can live and be well.....
As you wait for the phone call you are always aware that for it to come somebody will have died.....and when you get the transplant all your joy is tinged with the sadness that a family is hurting.......and that feeling never ever leaves you.
As you wait for the phone call you are always aware that for it to come somebody will have died.....and when you get the transplant all your joy is tinged with the sadness that a family is hurting.......and that feeling never ever leaves you.
Then they need to educate themselves about it, Hc.....and not just assume.....
Before going on the transplant list we both investigated every side of it thoroughly.....
And I really can't understand these hyperbolic "state taking control" comments....we are being given more control by having the opt out system.....
We will have the opportunity to decide and discuss and then take the path we wish to have happen when we die.
We won't have families making awful decisions at a bad time or bickering over....would he/she want this.....
Before going on the transplant list we both investigated every side of it thoroughly.....
And I really can't understand these hyperbolic "state taking control" comments....we are being given more control by having the opt out system.....
We will have the opportunity to decide and discuss and then take the path we wish to have happen when we die.
We won't have families making awful decisions at a bad time or bickering over....would he/she want this.....
I am pro donation for people who wish it. What I mind is the government involvement here and the weasel words being used. This is not "presumed consent", this is "silence for consent" which is not the same. I also wonder about the "back of the queue" idea..... I was a blood donor for around 25 years. I ended up being told I had to stop because when I got the menopause I used to pass out at the end of donation so I was politely told my services were no longer required.....so how much blood equals a kidney? a heart? Because you don't just need the organ to effect a transplant. If someone has only committed to allow certain organs but not all, will you allow them an organ they have not committed to donate?
I do agree that its an important thing for people to talk to their families about but I do not agree with this kind of official co-ercion....and as I said John Prescott's comment about organs being a national resource still leaves a nasty taste in my mouth.
I do agree that its an important thing for people to talk to their families about but I do not agree with this kind of official co-ercion....and as I said John Prescott's comment about organs being a national resource still leaves a nasty taste in my mouth.
This is far too complex a subject to be addressed by Government decree like tax. Governments and other large organisations can only function because they are basically stupid and don't do emotion, like machines.
When it comes to a very emotive subject like this, great delicacy is needed and I tend to agree with Kvalidir when he says we have things about right as they are.
I have a donor card but I wouldn't expect others to carry one, any more than I would expect them to be creating life by procreating or expect them not to have abortions - these are very personal things that are not to be resolved by committee.
When it comes to a very emotive subject like this, great delicacy is needed and I tend to agree with Kvalidir when he says we have things about right as they are.
I have a donor card but I wouldn't expect others to carry one, any more than I would expect them to be creating life by procreating or expect them not to have abortions - these are very personal things that are not to be resolved by committee.
