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Thanks all. Well he didn't want to know, he hates Drs, they freak him right out, it's all he can do to have a medical. I never nag normally, as you say it's counter productive usually and just makes the nagger look like a nutcase, but I did on this occasion because he needed to go and I was worried to death, and hey presto after a good row and a sulk and a think about why I'd nagged him he did, so actually I'm really happy that he didn't just chuck me out and ignore it lol.