Anne Just Wants To Call Me Names Rather That Face Reality So Here Goes......

[ToraToraTora]

Does Nicola Sturgeon have a pathological hatred of the English?
I'll start with one of many links, others can add their evidence either side:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/701141/Nicola-Sturgeon-accused-fuelling-hate-Scotland-failing-tackle-racism

[Zacs-Master]

I think you’ve chosen your wording carelessly if you want a sensible debate.
Pathological:
‘pathological when they behave in an extreme and unacceptable way, and have very powerful feelings that they cannot control’
I don’t think she can’t control it, I think she is in full control so I’d have to say ‘No’.

[Zacs-Master]

However, if you’d stuck to ‘inherent’ I would probably have agreed with you.

[ToraToraTora]

I'm addressing anne who asked me to comment on a statement I made in another thread, if I changed the wording she would accuse me of censorship.

[naomi24]

Pathological? Hmmm ... debatable. Does she hate the English? She certainly gives me that impression.

[Zacs-Master]

I thought the word you used was ‘inherent’?

[steg]

She hates balloons more I think

[Old_Geezer]

Ah, that explains it. I didn't think her name was Anne Sturgeon.

[steg]

I think she must hates brexit more than the english

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-tells-english-move-scotland-dont-like-brexit/

[anneasquith]

Unfortunately there are some people ,
where it would suit their mindset that N S actually hated the English, alas she does not .

[ToraToraTora]

then how do you explain the link above?

[ToraToraTora]

ZM I did originally say "pathological" it was meant as hyperbole, "inherent" would have been better. I think the ED changed it.

[Zacs-Master]

Ah, right.

[New Judge]

I think it's England she dislikes more than the English, 3Ts.

In the same way that you and I despise the EU and all it stands for we probably get on quite well with any European friends and acquaintances we might have. I can understand her feeling miffed that Scotland seems to be dominated by a Parliament over which it has no real control. But there the analogy ends. Scotland is a considerable net beneficiary of its English neighbours' largesse (where the opposite of true of the UK:EU relationship) and the UK is not seeking an alternative dependence following our departure from the EU (whereas Scotland would be if it gained independence). All in all muddled thinking which I cannot get my head round.

[anneasquith]

Interesting times ahead I believe for Scotland. They appear to have an option following brexit. England do not .

[Zacs-Master]

Yes. An option to go bankrupt or depend on the EU for handouts. Nice choice.

[anneasquith]

Why would that bother you zac, concentrate on your own country ;*)

[Zacs-Master]

I never said whether it would or wouldn’t bother me. I’m merely pointing out the weakness of your argument and the reality of the choices an independent Scotland would have. Here, educate yourself:
https://www.ft.com/content/7c6f8ca8-0807-11e7-97d1-5e720a26771b

[New Judge]

And of course it is extremely unlikely that they will meet the criteria for EU membership. More than that, the five current official candidate nations, who have been candidates for between ten (Albania and Serbia) and twenty (Turkey) years may feel a little hard done if Scotland is admitted on the nod. (Mind you, it depends whose palms are greased and to what degree).

[jno]

the UK is not seeking an alternative dependence

you don't need to, you already have them. You'll have to follow the USA into pointless wars. You'll have to let China build your power stations. You'll have to sell arms to medieval theocracies. These happened even during Britain's EU membership. Sovereignty is a very flexible notion.

[Zacs-Master]

Bankruptcy it is then.