I Don’t Have Covid.

[chrissa1]

I live by myself. I don’t have COVID. How can I transmit COvid to my family in Southampton when I go down there and visit them for Xmas?

It doesn’t make sense.

[chrissa1]

Thank you for all your opinions.

[emmie]

hope that it works out for you

[New Judge]

//My understanding is we can actually do what we like over those 5 Xmas days//

No we can’t. Some people will (as they have been doing throughout).

//Chrissa1 is a GRANDMOTHER...and has about a 1in10 chance of catching it in the UK.//

Since I believe the chances overall of anybody contracting the disease are considerably longer than 1 in 10, why does the fact that she is a grandmother increase those odds? As well as that, why is everybody speaking about grandmothers as if they are all wizened old hags aged about 95? You can be a grandparent in your mid thirties and whilst that’s unusual, many grandparents of young children (you know, the ones where it might be difficult to stop them rushing up and hugging granny) are in their 40s or early 50s. Less than 2% of people dying from Covid were aged under 50.

[Bazile]

Chrissa1
Do you sanitise all the packaging of food stuffs you get .

If so how do you do that ?

Do you wipe every product with a different
cloth or do you use the same cloth for all products

How do you sanitise all the things you go out with - bank cards , phones , keys ,clothes etc

The point I'm making is that you cannot be completely sterile of the virus

[New Judge]

//The point I'm making is that you cannot be completely sterile of the virus.//

No you certainly cannot. I take reasonable and practical precautions. I don't sterilize all my goods when I bring them in but I don't place them on work surfaces or tables. They go straight to their storage place. I do clean credit cards, keys, phone etc. when I return and wash my hands between all of these tasks. You cannot entirely eliminate risk but you can reduce it by taking reasonable and practical steps. It is not practical, IMHO, to sterilise all the goods I bring into the house.

[Sqad]

NJ....indeed, you are correct, but most people's idea of a grandmother is someone over 60 years of age of which the 1 in 10 applies.
However, your widening of the term "grandmother " is noted.

///, why is everybody speaking about grandmothers as if they are all wizened old hags aged about 95? ////

I didn't know they were, but have also noted your comment and assure you that,if that were the case, our language will be moderated.

[Apc2604]

Sqad at 9.29

Straight to the point answer and in my opinion exactly correct.

[10ClarionSt]

I've said it before and I'll say it again - on BBC News, a spokesman for PHE said that 95% of deaths have been people who had one, or a combination of, heart disease, dementia or Type 1 diabetes. If you are a normal healthy person, you will not die of Covid. Ask PHE.

[10ClarionSt]

And if a third spike does hit, so what? We're getting used to it now aren't we? Some people on here will love it. They have done so far this year.

[Sqad]

Clarion...?..as a guess and including Type 2 diabetes i would say that 80% of "old folks" would fall i to that category....just a guess i admit.

[chrissa1]

I live in North Northumberland and there are no cases of the virus in my town. However, I go nowhere without my hand sanitizer and gel all trolleys before and after my shop.

I rub down all packages with antiseptic wipes. I touch nothing in my house until after I’ve done this and go straight to the bathroom to wash my hands with hot soapy water.

It’s worked thus far.

[DTCwordfan]

Step out of your safe zone though and what factor does your risk go up by....quite considerably I would put it to you - and all for waiting a few weeks for a vaccine...? 60+, healthy, you're in band 8 for inoculation as I am also in, my betting being sometime in late Feb for the 1st jab and then its a month for the second one including two weeks for it to take full effect.....so Easter for out-of-towners (zone 1 down here) visitors!

[pixie374]

//However, your widening of the term "grandmother " is noted//

Sqad, NJ hasn't widened the term. I have been a grandmother since I was 41. I still look after her now. It would be better to give ages, if that's what you meant x

[New Judge]

//...but most people's idea of a grandmother is someone over 60 years of age of which the 1 in 10 applies.//

Why does it, sqad? The last time I looked (early November) the ONS calculated that the chances of any single individual contracting Covid was about 60 in 100,000, so about 0.006 in 10. So what makes a 60 year old granny 160 times more likely than average to catch the virus?

[Chinajan]

Chrissa - if the people you were considering visiting are shielding, could it be they are worried about hosting you when you've arrived via public transport?

[Sqad]

NJ
///////Covid was about 60 in 100,000, so about 0.006 in 10. So what makes a 60 year old granny 160 times more likely than average to catch the virus?///////

Those figures are based on the whole population which contain all age groups. As one gets older one enters the territory of heart disease, high blood pressure, chronic osteo and rheumatoid arthritis and cancer to name a few, all feeding and survival areas for Covid, it thrives on such situations. Its not just a granny at 60 it is grannies all over the world that may live .ives thanks to medical science well into their 90,.......3 decades of "grannies" all susceptible to a new highly infectious virus.
Let's not play with figures, let us honour humanity here as the elderly succumb in large unacceptable numbers to this scourge.

[pixie374]

Sqad, you are just making it a little confusing... do you mean over 60s, over 70s and so on.? I'm 46 and a granny does it include me?

[chrissa1]

Well, I was 70 last month.

[Sqad]

pixie.....don't worry your pretty little self over the word grannies which wasn't coined by me but NJ (I think) just accept that we are talking about folks male and female overthe age of 60.
Don't get hung up over the number 60.

[pixie374]

I listen to sqad...I'm just not sure he means grannies at this time... surely it is more about age?