Long Covid

[Bazile]

Just watching a programme on the above .

Should people suffering from long covid have the vaccine ?

[Mamyalynne]

There are indications that the vaccine helps with long Covid symptoms, more research needed.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-vaccine-may-help-long-covid-sufferers-patient-groups/

[jno]

until a proper scienetist turns up ... New Scientist suggests yes

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2270186-coronavirus-vaccines-may-reduce-or-eliminate-symptoms-of-long-covid/

[emmie]

Minty has long covid and has been suffering with it for ages, she is due a vaccine this Thursday - so yes they should.

[MahaEhsan]

obviously but need more research on this.

[Peter Pedant]

long covid is a bit of a rag-bag and should be decided on a case by case basis

[Peter Pedant]

new scientist has a pay wall
am I the first to see this or - - - are you all new sci subscribers?

[brainiac]

Read a really interesting article at the weekend that suggests that Long Covid might be a re-reactivation of the Epstein-Barr virus, and thus those with it might be suffering from a form of glandular fever. Around 95% of us carry the Epstein-Barr virus without knowing it.

[Sqad]

/////%Around 95% of us carry the Epstein-Barr virus without knowing it.////

Do we?

[brainiac]

Yes, we do

https://www.science.org.au/curious/people-medicine/epstein-barr-virus

[Sqad]

I don't believe the information given by that link and like many links it is misleading.
That link suggests that if you tested for EB virus 95% of the population would be positive for the virus....naaaah! I don't believe it.
What i would believe is that 95% of the population has had EB virus at some time in their lives.
Quite different.

[Peter Pedant]

// The overall age-adjusted EBV antibody prevalence declined from 72% in 2003–2004 to 65% in 2009–2010 (P = . 027). The prevalence in 2009–2010 by age group was as follows: 6–8 years, 50%; 9–11 years, 55%; 12–14 years, 59%; 15–17 years, 69%; and 18–19 years, 89%.18 Jul 2013//
however there is at least another site that says the antibody prevalence is 95%

EBV is a herpes virus DNA and may well show latency.
and boys and girls no really
the way to make latent viruses express themselves is - acridine yellow or fuse with sendai virus. - irradiate

and so later covid infection is a theory that will get up and run and has an experimental basis

thing is - - you should if it is re-expressed - actually find whole virus particles.

Latent virus infection ( of cell lines used in vaccines) was big business in the 70s and 80s - and mainly worked out. The obvious thing is that you should be able to recover the virus (EBV) and for long covid- - covid, and if you cant.... then it strikes me as an unlikely mechanism

[Peter Pedant]

The appears to be an industry in this

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31315893/

behind a pay wall - reading this reminded me why I decided not to follow cell based virus research - starting at the bottom of course.

[Peter Pedant]

well
the BMJ is running a webinar 15 April 2021

Post-covid conditions
#CovidUnknowns webinar
‘Long covid’ and other sequelae of covid disease
15 April 2021, 4-6pm

for anyone interested
if it any good it will be streamed