Vaccine - Is Anyone Undecided?

[eve1974]

those of you who've not yet been offered and / or are not yet eligible... ae any of you undecided as to whether or notyof will have the ab?
Im not yet eligible (46yo no co morbidities) It just feels weird to put a vaccine into my body when I am healthy with a good (as far as I know it) immune system. Ps I do get the need for those who are vulnerable to have it (my husb is cons vulnerable and had his a month ago)

[emmie]

i had like some others on here, a bad reaction, but don't let that put you off, have it done asap -

[bhg481]

Bear in mind it's not just any old death there's a real possibility it's a slow, lingering death in hospital with no friends or relatives allowed to visit.

[woofgang]

Can I ask why you are unsure about the covid jab apart from the fakes and buffoons on brandnewtube? If there were going to be long term side effects, don't you think that they would have shown up by now? In the UK alone, more than 30 MILLION people have been ahead of you in the queue, among them some of the most vulnerable in the land, and oh look, many cases of a few days of feeling poo but extremely few long term side effects. Similarly 3.6 million have completed the course, again the vulnerable among them and again few long term side effects. Its your choice, just please make sure that you make that choice based on the facts and not on what swivel eyed loons are spouting.

[woofgang]

bhg"Bear in mind it's not just any old death there's a real possibility it's a slow, lingering death in hospital with no friends or relatives allowed to visit."

because this is not any old death.....its covid death

more seriously, yes indeed a horrible way to die

[fender62]

truly awful way to die, not being able to breath, practically paralysed
and no visits from loved allowed, get vaccinated and that fear of
dying from covid will vanish or at least lesson as you will not die
but be unwell.

[Milo2]

Eve, I felt just like you about vaccines. I’ve been eligible for a flu jab for quite a few years but only had it last year because of the Covid outbreak. I’ve now had both my Covid vaccinations and despite my earlier reservations, I’m glad I have. I did it to protect myself, a husband who is in the extremely vulnerable category and others in the general population.

[ichkeria]

I'm sure this has already been mentioned by someone else, but your "immune system" is largely useless to you with respect to Covid 19 unless you enhance it with the vaccine.
In fact could turn out to be your biggest enemy.
I was listening, frankly with disbelief, to a lady on the radio this morning complaining that the BBC is not "putting both sides" of the vaccine argument. When it was put to her, not in so many words, but more or less, that that might be because there really are no sensible arguments against other than the exceptiona already in place and well publicised, she changed the subject to talk about something else entirely. That is a trust issue, admittedly, tho sometimes you do wonder if some people are determined to hear no good.
That, by the way, does not apply to the OP!

[eve1974]

Thanks everyone for your opinions.

Interesting and thought provoking to hear your views.

[eve1974]

@woof 08:41 //If there were going to be long term side effects, don't you think that they would have shown up by now//

It’s because long term effects are exactly that ...” long.” That I’m concerned. IF (? )And I’m not saying there deffo will be) that wldnt show up yet. (Ps I’m not worried about feeling rubbish for a few days etc .... that’s a minor price to pay for protection. )

[jourdain2]

OH won't EVER have a booster after his reaction to the Pfizer. He had a horrible, body-wide, itchy rash which began in December and is ongoing. Our GP now says that we are going to have to continue with the onerous creaming programme, to keep it under control, for the forseable future. As he will be 88 next week, that seems to mean 'the rest of his life'. He has become worn-out through this and started to lose 'oomph', if you see what I mean, so that life is rather something to be endured not enjoyed. To be fair, his GP is muttering about not having a booster.

I would not, therefore, have the Pfizer but agreed to the Oxford A-Z, it wasn't pleasant for a few days and I now know 2 people in our small village who have been/are very ill after it, to the extent that one lady looks dreadful 2 weeks later and has no energy etc. and is off work. I am more than dubious about having my 2nd jab, never mind a booster.

So, from being fairly positive, OH is now definitely against and I am undecided.

[eve1974]

I’m sorry your Husb is struggling with these side effects. No wonder he is losing “oomph” (and what a worry that must be for you!)

It does seem more folk have side effects with Pfizer doesn’t it? (Husb had Oxford n other than a slightly sore arm nothing else)

[Peter Pedant]

// I was listening, frankly with disbelief, to a lady on the radio this morning complaining that the BBC is not "putting both sides" of the vaccine argument.//

prompted by the govt - the media and beeb have agreed not to publicise the full on " the vaccine is an alien insert designed to change us to sauropods aided and abetted by the CIA....it is a baby killer o by the way I have made sure my family has had it"

so to a certain extent - she's right.

[Peter Pedant]

// It does seem more folk have side effects with Pfizer doesn’t it? (*)//

numbers game - no - there are all equal and small
jourdains husband should have had a mrha yellow card done
not vaccinating an 88 does bear some risk

(*) anything that doesnt get you into hospital counts as mild

[jourdain2]

P.P. O.H. had a yellow card done after his first jab when the spots started, but they still did the second jab - after which it went body-wide and led to the general unpleasantness.

[woofgang]

eve "It’s because long term effects are exactly that ...” long.” That I’m concerned. IF (? )And I’m not saying there deffo will be) that wldnt show up yet. (Ps I’m not worried about feeling rubbish for a few days etc .... that’s a minor price to pay for protection. )"

is that a "thing" with vaccines? That they can have serious side effects weeks....months....years later? I wonder what the mechanism would be to cause it?

[woofgang]

actually of course we have already pretty much ruled out weeks or months haven't we?

jourdain, I am sorry that your husband was so unlucky. Nothing I am saying is intended to belittle his or your suffering.

[Peter Pedant]

just as well tack it on here
delete if it offends - BMJ webinar on covid and of course vaccines.
It IS two hours and with some repetition. and the discussion at the end isnt very good - today by the way

They are STILL not sure if the vaccine we have had is active against the Manaus variant and it is here