Were We All, (Or Most Of Us ) Conned?

[Khandro]

"I knew normally it took seven to ten years to develop a vaccine and for the safety data to be vetted before they could safely release it on human beings."

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/was-the-covid-crisis-a-fraud-to-cancel-global-debt-2/

Apart from my stroke, I have now a heart condition which has to be monitored, & Mrs K. has been coughing for months, something she's never done before.

[barry1010]

A fraud concocted between governments worldwide?

[bobbinwales]

It dosnt explain how this could help cancel global debt... who would gain from it???

[rowanwitch]

I don't think the long term effects of covid are fully understood. I had covid, long covid and now have rheumatoid arthritis despite two previous negative tests in the past. Some suggestion it has the ability to 'switch on' dormant auto immune disease. Only anecdotal stories of people having similar experiences. I have had covid again since and while I felt pretty rough for a few days it didn't make the long covid symptoms worse which I put down to the vaccine.

[rowanwitch]

So no it's not a fraud. Trust me it's real, you don't have that many deaths attributable to a fraudulent scare story.

[Canary42]

Having suffered a blood clot on the brain (which led to a permanent driving ban) after having the A/Z vaccine, I have a lot of sympathy with such conspiracy theories.

[david small]

Hook, line, and sinker. Plus subscription to Anglers Times.

[rowanwitch]

I have lost people I knew to Covid,mainly in the pre vaccine period, I know for some people there have been post vaccine issues including a friend who has developed a clotting disorder leading to heart attacks but the risk of the disease.WAS greater than the risks associated with the vaccines. However the new variants are weakening and for the majority are little more than an inconvenience. We may eventually return to a system of vaccinating the clinically vulnerable and the young especially if it weakens further.

[andy-hughes]

Kennedy, the moon landings, Diana, now Covid.

Massive impacts on our lives make us uneasy, so we look for 'explanations' to assuage our anxiety.

And if one doesn't exist, or sounds to 'tame' to be true, someone will make one up, and thanks to that worldwide rumour machine that is the Internet, it will be read by millions, and the law of averages plays, and a large enough proportion of people believe it for it to be circulated again, this time as a 'fact'.

Now we're not so busy having our lives disrupted by Covid, we have the luxury of time to wonder what it was all about.

And so the 'theorists' swing into action.

Anyone can do it, all you need is nothing better to do, a keyboard, an overactive imagination, and a pompous desire to share your ramblings with similarly minded strangers.

Ignore it, you'll feel better.

Make it your New Year's Resolution - no more believing piffle on the Internet from idiots who know nothing of which they speak.

[rowanwitch]

The good research is out there if you know where to look... Take time to find it, it makes things sooooo much easier to understand and far less worrying.

[Khandro]

a-h; //Make it your New Year's Resolution - no more believing piffle on the Internet from idiots who know nothing of which they speak.//

You would do well to make yours to wise up, do some research, & start listening to other people. We may all though, I fear have to suffer your continued arrogance for yet another year.

[naomi24]

I don’t believe that conspiracy theory at all but in the circumstances when time was of the essence, I don’t doubt for a moment that the vaccines weren’t thoroughly tested and have caused various illnesses and reactions.

[Gromit]

Before the vaccines existed many people got bloodclts and had heart problems.
There is no data that says there has been a huge increase in clots or heart conditions since 2020.. How do yo account for that ?

The editor of Conservative Woman website is awash with right wing conspiracy theories.

[youngmafbog]

They did Gromit but I think you will find they have increased now. The evil man Whitty is trying to blame it on people not receiving their medications during the lockdowns he pushed for.

There are known side effects, some of these have even been admitted by the drug companies concerned after they were forced to release them. My wife has a NHS exception from any more (she works for the NHS) due to the clot she got, so her doctors (GP & Hospital) clearly relate it.

The problem is Whitty does have a point and it will be very difficult to untangle it all.

[Barsel]

Gromit //There is no data that says there has been a huge increase in clots or heart conditions since 2020..//
That's the problem, isn't it?

[Khandro]

gromit : //There is no data that says there has been a huge increase in clots or heart conditions since 2020.. How do yo account for that ?//

What a stupid, ignorant assertion ! Why don't you do some research before making a fool of yourself? Try googling blood clots & covid & you will find countless entries delineating a connection. Here's just one at random:
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/09/19/blood-clot-risk-remains-elevated-nearly-a-year-after-covid-19

[Atheist]

Khandro; millions of Brits have been vaccinated against Covid, many of them quite old. Many Brits have died since being vaccinated. That does not prove that the vaccine caused the deaths.

[naomi24]

^that’s irrational.

[Atheist]

Naomi; Me or Khandro?

[naomi24]

You.

[royfromaus]

Canary42
Having suffered a blood clot on the brain (which led to a permanent driving ban) after having the A/Z vaccine, I have a lot of sympathy with such conspiracy theories.
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Do you not think you owe an apology for your past opinions then, Canary?