The Resurrection - History or Invention ?

[whiffey]

Most people today would accept Caesar's account of his invasion of Britain - why not indeed ?

Yet many or most people today will utterly reject the accounts of the resurrection of Christ.

Why is this ?

[Makinamess]

I am still sceptical - if the resurrection were to be proven, then my next question would be, "why did this god disappear for a very long time afterwards? and where is s/he now ? " Why did millions of people have to die/suffer in unnecessary wars, famine, natural disasters, of horrible diseases etc if their god was supposed to be looking out for them ? Hmmmm, really nice god, sounds like s/he went off somewhere else and left humanity to its own devices.

One last question from me on this subject - who or what made this god in the first place ? Where did god come from ?

[whiffey]

So far, nobody has persuaded me why the Gospels are bollox whereas Caesar's Gallic Wars are not.

Anyway, it's an age-old and futile argument, so I'll just bow out.

The Gospels are bollox where Caesar isn't. And the reason is pure human logic, as is death, and our inner feelings about it.

[Amara]

Whiffey, you seem to be troubled on here tonight. I send you lots of love and light. Amara xx

[whiffey]

Amara, thank you indeed, if I am troubled then it is something I find important enough to get troubled about. xx

[El D]

And therefore I presume everyone is equally foolish in denying the well documented Roman, Egyptian, Greek, Norse myths. All evidence is equal I guess? Would you believe me if I said I saw someone turn water into wine the other day?

[El D]

Additionally, I might add that if you look at what people throughout history, and indeed even in 2006, are willing to die for, then I don't believe it adds any particular strength to a rational argument.

[noxlumos]

Well actually that the first bits of the gospels were written 30 or 40 years AD does trouble me hugely and you'll probably laugh as to why, but my Grandad died in 1973, and at his wake there was a huge fight. I KNOW what started it because I heard it with my own ears, however in the 33 years since his death that truth has become corrupted depending upon who that was there you speak to, so that now any one of 10 things started the fight and people who were not even there ( I remember) claim to have taken part.
Now my p****d up Irish family may have no link to the new testament but they are proof eternal that normal people remember things differently after 33 years, so why were the gospel writers going to be any different?

[jno]

criminological experiments bear out what noxlumos says. But I suspect that in days before people relied on the written word (let alone electronic databases), they did recall things much better; memories would quite normally receive more exercise than they do now.