Naked kids

[hammerman]

Following on from sexyairhead's thread.....which i thought she was unfairly flamed for asking a sensible question, i noticed a lot of the ladies (well i hope they were) were all saying that's it's so nice to see kids running around as nature intended.

But i felt i couldn't post the same as i'm a bloke. I have an 8 year old daughter and it was great seeing her running round the garden starkers when she was smaller.

But, there was a barrier put up when you immediately mention men and naked kids and it felt horrible. It would be interesting to hear from blokes who would feel the same and are we panicing over nothing ladies ?

Discuss

[sexyairhead]

I always get blamed for asking sensible questions.I have the feeling that if I was a man they would not have had the kids running aroung naked.Even though I am lesbain they know I am not sexually interested in the kids.However I think most women are sensible enough to realise 99.99999 % of men are no danger to children.

[Pippa68]

Well I didn't mean to flame SA..yes, it was a sensible Q and I gave my opinion on the subject.

It's a toughie, hammerman. SA is right in the idea that most women are sensible enough to realise that it is most unlikely that you would be sexually interested in their naked children & that paedophiles are not 'in every corner'. I can understand the barrier...and it's a bloody shame men & women have to feel this way.

[B00]

I don't feel there's a barrier between men seeing naked children either- am I naive???

Obviously it depends on the age of the children I guess- I for one would go ape if I caught Mr Boo alongside nakedy 18 year old children- rofl!!!

And i hope that Ruskie understood that we (well most of us anyway) wasn't getting at her personally with our remarks, rather her views on that topic, afterall, isn't that what Ab is all about? A discussion forum?

[harriman]

My kids have always run around naked (saves on clothes washing LOL) and my OH and I walk around naked after a shower etc
My 8 yr old daughter is happy to be naked in front of both my husband and I and it really isn't an issue for us - but she covers up of her own accord if other people are there.

[noxlumos]

Hammerman, I'm a man and I did post the same as Boo and Pippa. The more we pander to the "every man is a potential rapist / child molester" the more prevalant the stupid notion becomes.Lots of parents came to our house ( male and female) and pretty much all of the kids under about 8 at some point or another were running in and out of the pool with no clothes on, nobody took a blind bit of notice and certainly I didn't know all of the other men present and my kids were nude, but for heavens sakes a naked body is not sexual in itself so kids should be free to just enjoy their childhood. I felt perfectly comfortable agreeing with Pippa and Boo as I think any right minded person, male or female, would feel the same, but yeah I do know what you mean, you get people like Whiffey who for their own strange reason thinks there is something disgusting or wrong about a naked child and THEY start to make you feel uncomfortable because they imply things that simply aren't there.

[raysparx]

Hi hammerman

very sadly I have to agree with you,I am getting a real complex,about being around kids and I love kids, even to the point that a few weeks back a regular customer of mine asked if I would mind if she left her little girl with me for 5 minutes while she went for milk at the local shop, I said course its ok,but I was so relieved when she came back,I told her I felt really uncomfortable,she said I was being silly and she would trust her with me all day, but what if ?

I even stopped running boys football teams about 10 years ago because the thought of being accused of something odd,made me feel sick, It is a very sad world now, Ray

[raysparx]

hammerman,

another point is,if you see a kiddie fall over ,and you are the only one about, do you help the kiddie up or leave them alone ? I would help them up, but what if at that exact moment the kiddies mother comes running out saying,get away from my child, ? I feel it is going to get to the stage that men will be scared to help , Ray

[Amara]

That is the great thing about Spain, kids here run around naked on the beach and in the garden and it is lovely to see. There is no obsession with paedophilia like in UK, it can be a little strange at first when men pick up your children and hug them, as it just does not happen in England. But everyone loves kids here and it is wonderful. I feel happier letting my children out here and it is like the whole neighbourhood watches over them. I think like everything it has gone a little too far in England.

[B00]

Ray Hammer? Is this how the average man feels around children? Honestly? That's bl00dy terrible! We all know the worlds a horrible place but ot think that a man is scared to be around other peoples children just makes it all that more horrible for me :-(

Ray's remarks have really, really saddened me......

[petes_dragon]

I agree with everything else that's been said so far - it's really sad that all men should be made to feel this way when it is only a VERY small minority that are 'predators'.

I know my husband has said that he wouldn't pick another child up if they had fallen down etc in case it was misconstrued by the parent/onlookers etc.

My husband is also terrified of allowing my son to go to cubs/football etc when he's older in case anything does occur even though logically he knows that it is very unlikely - it is really hard for parents to allow thier children to live normal lives without being so over protective!!

A xXx

[raysparx]

B00, you are a lovely person, the world isn't, I find it very sad, I ran football teams for years,but then paedos started getting involved, I always insisted that if I was with a kiddie that a groin injury,that there was anothe coach with me,it is very sad,but it is fact,you have got to cover yourself, I hope I never feel that I cannot help a kiddie ,but the world is changing people here are very suspicious of us blokes,and who can blame them, what does a paedo look like ? I love to listen to kids laughing and playing,but if I was in a park B00 and I was near the swings say and you and a few other mums were there would you think I was normal or would you say, whos that bloke hanging about ???

[raysparx]

hammerman,

I must say this is a brilliant question, making people think,isn't it.

[B00]

Well it is a good dicussion Hammer, though I resent being ordered to "discuss- lol.

I get your point Ray, about a bloke without children in a park, but to be honest I'd be equally mystified if it was a lone woman too.

I asked Mr Boo his opinion on this and he said he doesn't feel strange or weird around other folks's kids......so i've a theory, could it possibly be men without children of their own who feel the way you do Ray( and no, im not saying it's wrong at all) ?

[Amara]

Ray, you are unfortunately right about the swings bit, but that is how the culture has become in England. But what are we doing to our children? They will grow up even more paranoid than the current generation of parents. What will happen to their confidence, are we going to breed a generation of suspicious, inhibited individuals scared to go out of the front door?

[raysparx]

B00, I don't know what it is, my children are grown up 31 & 27, but I love being around kids,they keep you young,I think probably the Media is to blame,as all we hear about is paedos, also the amount of people mainly men caught with child porno on the computer, specially high profile ones like Gary Glitter, I am glad mr B00 is ok with it,but as you say it is very sad, Ray xx

[raysparx]

Amara, can we all move to Spain ????

[petes_dragon]

Amara that is a really good point - as I said in the other post it's no wonder that todys children have so many issues!!

Due to the media etc we are now raising our children to be scared/wary/suspicious of everyone from friends and family to teachers, sports coaches etc...it is really sad but a consequence of modern life!!

[hammerman]

Jesus wept...i ask a totally straight question and offer it for discussion.

All the answers have been superb until BOO thinks i'm ordering her to "discuss it"

May i suggest you don't post in any replies that order you to "discuss".

Ray....i know exactly where you're coming from m8. I occasionally have to give my daughter a shower if the wife's working late. She jumps in (naked) and i leave her to it until it's time to get out and i then lift her out straight into a towel where she goes off to dry and dress herself......but i can't help feeling that it's wrong

[raysparx]

hammerman,

cuddle your daughter,there is nothing nicer than being close to your own child,it is so precious,why should society make us feel bad,it is crazy,they grow up so quickly don't they, I hate what these sickos have done to us normal people,by the way we now have to think,do I, don't I ? crazy world, dare I say give your daughter a peck on the cheek from me ? hope you get loads more replies, Ray