Rule breaking

[laurence2]

i've broke many a rule in life, but i'm trying my best to put this right now.

Have you broke the rules of life, and if so how did you rectify this

[mccfluff]

what rules are we talking here?

[redcrx]

is this like a confession? What rules of life do you mean?

Ive got a child born out of wedlock and am living in sin, how horrendously bad is that?

[Octavius]

Red - quite bad if you believe in the fires of hell and eternal damnation!

[4getmenot]

I stole a jelly worm out the pic-a-mix once

[laurence2]

Any rules we would like to discuss?

[horsestache1]

I got divorced, that soon rectified things :)

[noxlumos]

Can you clarify "rules of life" Laurence please? Are we talking about our own codes or about laws or higher moral rules?

[PinkFizz]

Ive probably broken loads of rules,but it depends on what rules we are talking about.What rules do you mean Laurence?

[laurence2]

own codes would be fine, tho please feel free to share other codes if one likes.

[stylinsam]

i once stole a pair of socks one winter day cos my feet were really cold and i didnt have any socks on!!

god please forgive me!!

[PinkFizz]

Am intrigued laurence.Do you mean you are trying to put past mistakes right,or you have done somthing a tad wrong recently? Or neither of those?

By the way,I once stole a bag of nappies for my baby when I was a single parent and didnt have 2 pennies to rub together.Still feel guilty about it.

[laurence2]

an example,

My brother took the path of criminal activities, my family after many years turned their back on him, i stood firm as loyalty took over my mind {ie hes my brother} then he betrayed my trust so i turned my back on him.

Is this breaking a code {rule} ie no matter what, through thick & thin, bloods thicker than water etc etc, ie have i broke a rule {family stick together no matter what}

I feel i have, even tho it wasen't my doing

[noxlumos]

Loyalty is a real b*****d and gets you every time Laurence, I can see why you did what you did, but you can only go along with even family so far.If his activities started to negatively impact on you and yours then you were right to do what you did.

[newtron]

I once stole a box of 90 roles of toilet paper from the place I worked. It lasted me quite a while. I never felt guilty, and I never rectified it. So sue me!

I think it is important to clarify what rules you are talking about because all rules are not created eual.

[newtron]

Sorry laurenc2, I didn't see you post above when I posted.

[laurence2]

nox, its strange because i have 4 other brothers and one sister {no problems whatsoever} my mum/dad can't make out to this day WHY he turned out different, what he had we had etc, he was treated no different and WHAM, i can see where the saying ''BLACK SHEEP OF THE FAMILY'' comes from now, it pi$$es me because, i,m a very strong character like the rest of my family and i'm certainly not a defeatest, thats why i think i,ve broking a rule, because its unlike me to give up on him, even tho he's clearly gave up on us

[noxlumos]

My younger brother , who had none of the beatings and abuse I had, and I both turned out nasty bits of work initially, but for some reason it suddenly seemed to dawn on me that I'd still be repeating the same old things when I was 80 if I didn't have the sense to try to change. That's never occured to Micheal, or if it has he's chosen to ignore it. It distresses him no end that i'm no longer the utter t****r that I was and he feels I've somehow let him down, so actually on this, oddly I know exactly how you feel and agree with you. There's nothing you can do really, except let him know you love him and will be there if he ever sees the light.

[mimififi]

Laurence, there is a difference between remaining loyal and allowing yourself to be walked all over. If someone is on an arrow straight course to their own destruction, there is really nothing much you can do, except be there when and if they decide to change.

you may well feel guilty for 'turning your back', but you are also grieving for your brother, for the relationship you desired to have for the feelings of failure in not being able to help him change his ways and probably angry with him too for not seeing what he is doing to himself.

Try to take comfort in the fact that you walked the furthest with him and tried you best. You really can do no more than that, you can never be accused of not trying your best. Some times, no matter how much we love a person, we have let go and say goodbye.

much love to you laurence.

p.s I have broken many rules and let my family down on many occasions as a young teenage daughter, out of control. I did come good though and now have a very close relationship with my mother and my sister. There is always hope.