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What are your views on marijuana usage? Do you find it acceptable? Do you use it yourself?
What do you think of it compared to alcohol and its associated problems? What about punishments for use and possession, and effects on our kids?
What do you think of it compared to alcohol and its associated problems? What about punishments for use and possession, and effects on our kids?
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I dont smoke it, but also have no problem with anybody else smoking it. I think smoked reasonably it can chill people out much better than someone binge drinking, ruining their body and ending up in fights. But I did say reasonably, I have known people to become adicted to it, spend lots of money on it and also long term use does cause memory damage.
The worse thing this pathetic Government did was downgrade cannabis to class C.
It is a dangerous drug that has harmful effects, simple as that.
Also, of course not all pot smokers will turn to crack or heroin, but ALL crack and smack users started on the weed. Therefore the pole is somewhat slippery, and these law breaking druggies are sliding down it.
The punishment for use and possession??? There is no law against having used it, except Sect 4 of the Road Traffic Act. Which is pathetic. If it is in your blood stream from more than just passivity, there bloody well should be an offence.
The punishment for possession is pathetic as well. Some police turn a blind eye, where others may give a mere caution/reprimand or a paltry fixed penalty notice.
The new law of making pot DEALING the same as class A's (heroin and crack and coke) was ridiculous insofaras pot dealers are now turning to heroin dealing to make more money. Why not, if caught the penalty is the same.
Drug users are weak and lonely people. If they can't have a good time with a few beers, a nice lady, decent food and music, they do not deserve to live. They are a pain society. They cost the police and the NHS millions each month.
And, no I have never touched drugs. I tried a normal cigarette once when I was about 13, so I know what addiction is like!!!
It is a dangerous drug that has harmful effects, simple as that.
Also, of course not all pot smokers will turn to crack or heroin, but ALL crack and smack users started on the weed. Therefore the pole is somewhat slippery, and these law breaking druggies are sliding down it.
The punishment for use and possession??? There is no law against having used it, except Sect 4 of the Road Traffic Act. Which is pathetic. If it is in your blood stream from more than just passivity, there bloody well should be an offence.
The punishment for possession is pathetic as well. Some police turn a blind eye, where others may give a mere caution/reprimand or a paltry fixed penalty notice.
The new law of making pot DEALING the same as class A's (heroin and crack and coke) was ridiculous insofaras pot dealers are now turning to heroin dealing to make more money. Why not, if caught the penalty is the same.
Drug users are weak and lonely people. If they can't have a good time with a few beers, a nice lady, decent food and music, they do not deserve to live. They are a pain society. They cost the police and the NHS millions each month.
And, no I have never touched drugs. I tried a normal cigarette once when I was about 13, so I know what addiction is like!!!
I aggree with joe that its very often the first step on a slippery slope. I completely disaggree with drug taking and I always swore blind i would never try any drug, i dont smoke and to be honest dont drink very often (i just dont like the taste). i did backtrack though and tried some of my friends joint, and it was rubbish, it did absoloutely nothing for me!! if it had done something for me i would like to think that i still wouldnt have done it again. but i really wish i could by gas and air, like you have in labour, now that was good.
It is also worth noting that you can now buy heroin & cocaine for much less money than a bit of dope. I have been told this on good authority!
You can buy an E for a couple of quid (compared to about a tenner a few years back)
It is then no wonder that as Wardy says all people start off on weed and end up on coke or heroin. Rather appalling, as weed is comparitively safer than the other drugs..and carries good medicinal properties. It certainly keeps the 'black dog' away from manic depressives and seems less addictive than librium.
You can buy an E for a couple of quid (compared to about a tenner a few years back)
It is then no wonder that as Wardy says all people start off on weed and end up on coke or heroin. Rather appalling, as weed is comparitively safer than the other drugs..and carries good medicinal properties. It certainly keeps the 'black dog' away from manic depressives and seems less addictive than librium.
One major difference is that it isn't possible to overdose on marijuana, while lots of alcohol in a brief period of time can lead to alcohol poisoning, which can be fatal.
Marijuana and alcohol have both been shown to significantly reduce reaction time and motor coordination making many activities when drunk or high, dangerous. Alcohol is known to contribute to liver disease, although it has been suggested that a nightly glass of red wine can help keep your heart healthy. Similarly, marijuana is known to cause short-term cognitive impairment (trouble thinking clearly), but for certain medical conditions, such as glaucoma, marijuana possesses therapeutic properties.
The health impact of any drug depends on how it is used, who is using it, how much is used, and under what circumstances. Marijuana and alcohol are no exception, so comparing them directly is difficult � each possesses the potential for unique risks or benefits. One further thing I would say is that alcohol tends to affect people around the user (abuse, violent conduct, dependency etc) more so than marijuana appears to.
Providing both are used in moderation and their use doesn�t affect me, I don�t have a particular issue. I think though I would prefer my child (of a certain age of course) to have the odd glass of wine than the odd smoke. I think smoking, however moderate, over a long period of time causes long term damage whereas (I may well be wrong) moderate alcohol use allows the body to recover and can provide some health benefits as I said above.
Marijuana and alcohol have both been shown to significantly reduce reaction time and motor coordination making many activities when drunk or high, dangerous. Alcohol is known to contribute to liver disease, although it has been suggested that a nightly glass of red wine can help keep your heart healthy. Similarly, marijuana is known to cause short-term cognitive impairment (trouble thinking clearly), but for certain medical conditions, such as glaucoma, marijuana possesses therapeutic properties.
The health impact of any drug depends on how it is used, who is using it, how much is used, and under what circumstances. Marijuana and alcohol are no exception, so comparing them directly is difficult � each possesses the potential for unique risks or benefits. One further thing I would say is that alcohol tends to affect people around the user (abuse, violent conduct, dependency etc) more so than marijuana appears to.
Providing both are used in moderation and their use doesn�t affect me, I don�t have a particular issue. I think though I would prefer my child (of a certain age of course) to have the odd glass of wine than the odd smoke. I think smoking, however moderate, over a long period of time causes long term damage whereas (I may well be wrong) moderate alcohol use allows the body to recover and can provide some health benefits as I said above.
All I will say to anybody who wishes to legalise it..........
With this Government who makes makes money from almost anybody it can, who even tax pensioners and DEAD people. Who have skimmed the middle classes for billions compared to the Tories, who have given interest rates of 80 percent to the third world and put petrol up to nigh on a fiver a gallon, why don't they legalise it?
Could it be that Her Majesties medics have actually realised that it is harmful? With the new non-smoking policy, they realise it is cancerous and causes heart disease.
I do not have the answers. But can somebody tell me, using this pathetic governments fiscal policy, why they do not make millions from cannabis? To my understanding it is fairly easy to grow and can be taxed heavily.
And ratter, I debate that it is not addictive, otherwise you wouldn't get pot heads. Also, I am further aware it can be digested in "space cookies" but the majority of druggies smoke it mixed with tobacco. Surely you are not going to argue tobacco is not addictive either.
With this Government who makes makes money from almost anybody it can, who even tax pensioners and DEAD people. Who have skimmed the middle classes for billions compared to the Tories, who have given interest rates of 80 percent to the third world and put petrol up to nigh on a fiver a gallon, why don't they legalise it?
Could it be that Her Majesties medics have actually realised that it is harmful? With the new non-smoking policy, they realise it is cancerous and causes heart disease.
I do not have the answers. But can somebody tell me, using this pathetic governments fiscal policy, why they do not make millions from cannabis? To my understanding it is fairly easy to grow and can be taxed heavily.
And ratter, I debate that it is not addictive, otherwise you wouldn't get pot heads. Also, I am further aware it can be digested in "space cookies" but the majority of druggies smoke it mixed with tobacco. Surely you are not going to argue tobacco is not addictive either.
Joe, I agree that smoking it with tobacco is addictive, but it doesn't have to be smoked with tobacco, as you say there are other ways to take it.
As to whether it is addictive is still being debated I believe, but no debate on the addictiveness of alcohol( which I very rarely drink) we all know to well about alcoholics.
I really struggled to give up smoking and went through hell with it but never did I yearn for a fix of dope and never did whilst I smoked it, if I didn't have any I went without, but if I ran out of tobacco I would go to the end of the world to replenish my supplies!!
As to whether it is addictive is still being debated I believe, but no debate on the addictiveness of alcohol( which I very rarely drink) we all know to well about alcoholics.
I really struggled to give up smoking and went through hell with it but never did I yearn for a fix of dope and never did whilst I smoked it, if I didn't have any I went without, but if I ran out of tobacco I would go to the end of the world to replenish my supplies!!
I do not have the figures, but yes, I am aware pot may "chill" one out. But I have to look at the wider picture.
Booze causes many fights, and random acts of aggression, but pot CAN (not a definate as I have stated) lead to smack and crack.
This in turn causes most burglaries and robberies. I know a scale does not exist, but I would place, say 20 street fights (with no permanent scarring or death) to one burglary where some old boy gets his war medals stolen for trhe price of a bag of heroin.
Then all the social issues. The begging, the filth, AIDS etc. Smackheads are the lowest form of urban life. And I strongly hold this could be reduced if cannabis in the first place was erradicated.
13 year old boys and girls who want to have a sneaky drink will never start of Methylated spirits will they? The same way a somebody who wishes to experiment with narcotics will not start of crack rocks.
Death to the drug barons!!!
Booze causes many fights, and random acts of aggression, but pot CAN (not a definate as I have stated) lead to smack and crack.
This in turn causes most burglaries and robberies. I know a scale does not exist, but I would place, say 20 street fights (with no permanent scarring or death) to one burglary where some old boy gets his war medals stolen for trhe price of a bag of heroin.
Then all the social issues. The begging, the filth, AIDS etc. Smackheads are the lowest form of urban life. And I strongly hold this could be reduced if cannabis in the first place was erradicated.
13 year old boys and girls who want to have a sneaky drink will never start of Methylated spirits will they? The same way a somebody who wishes to experiment with narcotics will not start of crack rocks.
Death to the drug barons!!!
Joe I agree that it can in some cases it can lead to harder drugs but this is rare, probably less often than kids starting off on Buckfast and cheap cider at 12 & 13 and going on to being alcoholics.
If you smoke to much dope, you throw up and 30 minutes later you are fine again not in hospital having your stomach pumped and even dying from alcohol poisoning
And yes!! death to the drug barons!!!!
If you smoke to much dope, you throw up and 30 minutes later you are fine again not in hospital having your stomach pumped and even dying from alcohol poisoning
And yes!! death to the drug barons!!!!
The point i am making is....................
Not all alcohol drinkers are meths drinking tramps. And not all pot smokers are heroin injecting filth.
But they are two different things!!!
I do not know the figures, but I will make an eduacted guess that the amount of tea-total druggies as a percentage is pretty much the same as teatotalism as a whole.
I do know that the classic heroin begger would prefer to spend his money on drugs and not drink.
I am sorry, but drink and drugs are two different things. I see the link people are trying to make in social terms etc, but we can bring a number of other things in to the equation to make a better society.
Ban cars and joyriders will stop. Ban shops and we will rid the world of shoplifting.
Booze and drugs are two different things.
Not all alcohol drinkers are meths drinking tramps. And not all pot smokers are heroin injecting filth.
But they are two different things!!!
I do not know the figures, but I will make an eduacted guess that the amount of tea-total druggies as a percentage is pretty much the same as teatotalism as a whole.
I do know that the classic heroin begger would prefer to spend his money on drugs and not drink.
I am sorry, but drink and drugs are two different things. I see the link people are trying to make in social terms etc, but we can bring a number of other things in to the equation to make a better society.
Ban cars and joyriders will stop. Ban shops and we will rid the world of shoplifting.
Booze and drugs are two different things.
