herbal remedies for post menopause

[Linda51]

Are there any good herbal remedies for post menopause symptons, such as weight gain or getting teary for no reason. I've been taking some capsules called Agnus Castus supposed to be a herbal form of HRT. Thanks.

[tamborine]

shall I - shant I answer your Q & risk your wrath? Maybe not...........























































puff puff!

[grasscarp]

I find that Black cohosh is very effective for relieving symptoms. Told a friend and she now takes them too with good result. Have you considered this magnetic solution?
http://www.ladycare-uk.com/product_info.php?cP ath=21&products_id=28

[ethandron]

linda, if you're in britain, try boots own brand menopause plus (yellow and gold box) one a day bombs. i've been taking them for the past 3-4 years and am sure they help. i recently (about 3 weeks ago) had some tummy problems and stopped taking them as i just couldn't face them or my omega 3 bombs, and decided to see how i go on without them..... and guess what? i feel really tearful and emotionally 'delicate' , feelings that have got worse over the last few days, so i'm going to start taking them again. could just be coincidence of course, but i'm not taking any chances.
as for the weight gain, sorry, can't help, but if you do find an answer to it, please let us all know :)

[ACtheTROLL]

"Possibly the most exciting discovery for menopause
Impressive results from 508 women in large nationwide study"

a major medical breakthrough - 508 guinepigs .....
hell the nhs must be champing at the bit

just sick one of these in your knickers
http://www.mummymartinstoybox.co.uk/r-Magnetic FuzzyFaceid887optiondpsp1.php

the rest ... well I'm a bloke ... magnets are for making things magnetic (or in my case - testing pacemaker)

[grasscarp]

And what do you suggest to help Linda then Troll? As a man your opinion is not very helpful as you will never experience the symptoms or be able to find what works to relieve them. I have tried several things and passed on two that work for me.

[Lil O'lady]

Linda, don't get upset by AC, whose condition prevents him from empathising. He will have been attracted by the statistics quoted, not by any desire to offend you.
Menopause management is a whole-life thing, not just a pill - by all means try herbal remedies and make sure your vitamin and mineral intake is good, but address your mind's view of your body as well.
Personally I think people should cry if they are upset and the changes your body has gone through are in themselves upsetting. It is the implication that you are 'old' in a society fixated with youthful appearance, that your fertility is over - and of course, the way that men particularly become dismissive of you if you are not totty potential.
The only really effective way to address weight gain is to eat steadily less and move about more, and both these make you feel better in yourself anyway. You don't need to join a gym - walking, decorating, gardening, standing up while you iron, walking your dog or someone else's dog - all count as exercise.
Be good to yourself and others and develop a positive personal outlook - and take any pills you want as an extra. Enjoy this new phase of your life in every way possible.

[ACtheTROLL]

lil
I rely on not participating - but I'm currently watching it - and experiencing second hand - empathy - as much as I'm capable of (you might be surprised! - though probably not;) - wife who is extremely intelegent is in some distress and at times totally irrational - I'm not immune to that and it's effects on many levels.
Must say your view is balanced and realistic. I like the logic of simple self...that go with it approach is becoming increasingly acceptable in many other areas as well - shame it's taken so long

but I hate snakeoil of all flavours
it's like shampoo - stick some actimathingumyretinol and a white coat in the ad - get 20 cosmo readers to say it's nice to get free stuff ... and it becomes a scientific fact

these con artists exploit women when they are at their most vulnerable and more than a little incoherent

I can believe eating grass, coal or anything else - the bod has an odd way of rectifying imbalances ... but I doubt primal instinct runs to magnets

"LadyCare MAY help to reduce, or completely eliminate the symptoms of menopause." = equally it MAY not

look at the ad again -
Almost 100 (that's 20%) of the 508 women enjoyed a weight loss of 14lbs over the three months of the trial. (ok so menopause stops some women eating - not magnets - no problem with that claim - just the reason)

the pop of england is 60,943,912
9,279,693 are between 45 and 60
(of those about 55% are women)
the 508 sample here is 0.0001% of the english population.
were tested for three months
would you swallow real chemicals that had been tested on so few for so little time????

Tests showed 100% reduction in uncomfortable and embarrassing stomach problems (bloating and gas)
so preumably the women who were eating less lost weight and so farted less - not exactly a miracle - but what has it got

[grasscarp]

Troll - I can only say that it has helped me. I will not go into the specific details on a read by all and sundry website. Was not sure if it could or would do anything, so delighted. At a low and one off cost there was no harm in trying.
This site goes into detail on the effects of magnets on the body
http://www.worldofmagnets.co.uk/information/ho w_magnetic_therapy_affects_your_body.htm

[Lil O'lady]

If 'snake oil', praying, meditating or talking to your guardian angel makes you feel better then do it - it's s free country and the power of the placebo effect is well documented. AC will be able to furnish us with accurate statistics regarding this. No ruddy wonder his missis throws wobblies.

[ACtheTROLL]

no lil - reason she throws "wobblies" is ... she's in the same boat as all women of that certain age - she doesn't need my help to get there.
placebo is a documented fact - but it's unpredictable also evidence that people can overcome if they look inside themselves for answers

more stats - no love - your guardian angel wouldn't understand.


grass - a very balanced piece of research - for a website selling magnetic gewgaws -
I wonder why they say magnets work and affect the iron in our blood -
hard fact - mri will rip a metal pacemaker out of your chest - but it's it's used to monitor uminterupted bloodflow

see this for alternative info
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0706/dofairiesex ist.html

google medical uses of magnets - not many (any) results there other than equipment.

I'm not saying that mp isn't serious - don't get me wrong - the condition is real and life changing - no argument there)

bottom line is if you had something seriously wrong
would you see a doctor or a magnet?
time and time again "real" alternative medicines are shown not to work - or to be outright cons - if the power of mind is so strong (it is) why not spend effort using it directly - not convincing yourself that a stick has magic powers

[Lil O'lady]

Poor ol' Linda only asked about other people's experience of menopause. AC's weird attraction to this subject is probably helping her lose all will to live. However it is unfair of AC to leave the impression that the changes surrounding menopause are symptoms of illness as if he has some expertise in the subject.

Each woman experiences their own journey away from fertility and into the third phase of life. While this may include illness for some, for many it doesn't. It is however the case that many women become more confident about speaking their mind and less prone to suffer fools gladly, as they become more senior in years.

Men interpret confident and opinionated women who have finally lost patience with their idiotic antics as hormonally deficient, be that in earlier or older life. You're broody because you want a baby, you're moody because you've had a baby, or you're bonkers because you can't have any more babies.

Unsurpisingly there are women who become upset at this no-win situation, delivered by men who claim to love them and who dub their non-compliant behaviour as 'irrational'.

[beejaybee]

I tried the magnet & it made me ill. Every woman `s different. Some can sail through it all , some have everything. If I was you, rather than try lots of different things, I would go to speak to someone at your local health shop. They `ll be able to help you there.

[ACtheTROLL]

lil

of course I'll never know - I do know about con artists ... and victims - and I do seem to have at least as many women friends as men - so in my less trolly moments - ... make your own mind up - but there is a lot of bloke in me ... I know my limits where empathy is concerned - it's why I shifted careers from psychology to 'puters - I was pretty cr@p

I'm not saying illness - but it is a body imbalance ... as is pregnancy and all the other natural lady things that involve huge hormone changes.... blokes generally don't do it ... quite so much - and the rest was discouraged from an early age

blokes appear far less complicated ... we just eat, get mad, shout f....k and sleep still chemical - just less complex
and most tends to be treated by beer to restore that balance ...

I agree that there is not more attractive than an intelligent woman in her 50+s (I married an intelligent woman in her thirties - Im looking forward to this current stuff settling down ... I have a personality that enjoys a good mental tussle and certainly don't feel intimidated by a woman with a good head on her shoulders chit chat is torture - the attractive ones haven't lost interest - they've just changed tactics ... inner replacing some of the outer (even if some are dryer on the inside than ghandi's sandal)

... don't try to discredit me or paint me with that brush ... because it isn't what I think

at the mo wife is very unsure and distressed with what she sees as her reduced intelligence - it's actually more to do with her confidence - decisions are still good - she's still mostly herself - except !

I can only guess that I've touched some nerve with you .I was also disappointed in you - bringing my wife into it in such a way but then now I know you are certainly doing a lot of thrashing and very little substance in my area.

perhaps it's your mumzy side
...

[Lil O'lady]

Finished AC? Oh thank god.
You actually raised the issue of your wife - the claimed existence of whom astounds me.
However, think about it: if an intelligent and sensitive woman chooses put up with an obsessive dogmatic ranter, why should the existence of magic be denied?