impossible? depends how thin his trousers are! i would say it 'counts' if it was my boyfriend you were doing it to, wouldn't just let you (or him) off the hook cos it was on the outside of his trousers! dont know if thats what you mean but its an answer!
i'm so not a tart!!! i'm only asking because this girl claims to have gone to 2nd base with someone by rubbing him without actually putting her hands down and i want to know if she is right to claim that!!
I dont think that you are a cheap tart or are silly for asking this question as everyone has got to learn somewhere, but if you dont know what something is - are you mature enough to be doing it?