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Hi everyone:
Re - previous question with the same name (see my profile)
My daughter went to the council and enquiried about about paying rent / her father losing benefits and they said to her - she hasn't got to pay anything!!!
How can that be right? She is working full time is nearly 19, he has never worked on benefits they are in a privately rented 3 bedroom house, there are only two of them living in it, we want her here.
Do you think she hasn't got to pay anything this financial year? And maybe from April 2017 it will be the calculated?
How can that be fair she doesn't have to pay anything?
Please see previous question and answers as reference.
Thanking you all in advance for help
Re - previous question with the same name (see my profile)
My daughter went to the council and enquiried about about paying rent / her father losing benefits and they said to her - she hasn't got to pay anything!!!
How can that be right? She is working full time is nearly 19, he has never worked on benefits they are in a privately rented 3 bedroom house, there are only two of them living in it, we want her here.
Do you think she hasn't got to pay anything this financial year? And maybe from April 2017 it will be the calculated?
How can that be fair she doesn't have to pay anything?
Please see previous question and answers as reference.
Thanking you all in advance for help
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Remember that the father on his own in a 3 bed house will have 25% of his housing benefit deducted for the 'bedroom tax' as he has 2 spare bedrooms. With his daughter living there the deduction is reduced to 14% as there is only 1 spare bedroom.so even with the daughters wage the actual total housing benefit will hardly change or could even increase! If the father...
13:02 Sat 27th Aug 2016
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The rental contract is one solely between the father and the landlord, so the council staff have correctly stated that there's no obligation upon her to pay any rent directly to the landlord. (It's the father's responsibility to ensure that the rent is paid, either by him or through the benefits which he receives)
However the father is obliged to inform the authorities about the income of other family members living in the house, meaning that (now that the daughter is earning) he will almost certainly suffer a reduction in benefits.
It would therefore be appropriate for the daughter to pay money to her father in return for her staying in the house but any such arrangement is entirely separate to the father's contract with the landlord (and thus not officially regarded as 'rent').
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The rental contract is one solely between the father and the landlord, so the council staff have correctly stated that there's no obligation upon her to pay any rent directly to the landlord. (It's the father's responsibility to ensure that the rent is paid, either by him or through the benefits which he receives)
However the father is obliged to inform the authorities about the income of other family members living in the house, meaning that (now that the daughter is earning) he will almost certainly suffer a reduction in benefits.
It would therefore be appropriate for the daughter to pay money to her father in return for her staying in the house but any such arrangement is entirely separate to the father's contract with the landlord (and thus not officially regarded as 'rent').
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The earning limit for housing benefit is high ( over 85% of housing benefit is paid to people in full time work)so the household , father and daughter, will still qualify for full housing benefit.
What age is the father? this is important as if he is of an age where he can claim pension or pension credit he will automatically get 100% housing benefit and council tax benefit . Is he registered as disabled or unable to work? again if he is he can get extra benefit.
The earning limit for housing benefit is high ( over 85% of housing benefit is paid to people in full time work)so the household , father and daughter, will still qualify for full housing benefit.
What age is the father? this is important as if he is of an age where he can claim pension or pension credit he will automatically get 100% housing benefit and council tax benefit . Is he registered as disabled or unable to work? again if he is he can get extra benefit.
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Thank you for quick replies, I find it strange that they reckon that she won't pay anything. I know that because everything in his name but what I meant was, how come he won't be losing out on anything? It doesn't seem right.
He is not going to tell them because he doesn't want to lose out, but she has been into the council twice and told them she working full time and taking home over £700 a month, surely he should lose out as it's the total income has changed.
I'm worried because I don't want her paying for all his stuff, I don't want her being stung by the father to pay the short fall, or get a bill for outstanding money. I'm sure he hasn't even told the child tax credit or child benefit people either, the council said he should inform them ASAP.
I've told her to move here with me pay me some rent and the rest is hers, he surely going to make her pay.
He is not going to tell them because he doesn't want to lose out, but she has been into the council twice and told them she working full time and taking home over £700 a month, surely he should lose out as it's the total income has changed.
I'm worried because I don't want her paying for all his stuff, I don't want her being stung by the father to pay the short fall, or get a bill for outstanding money. I'm sure he hasn't even told the child tax credit or child benefit people either, the council said he should inform them ASAP.
I've told her to move here with me pay me some rent and the rest is hers, he surely going to make her pay.
Hi JBW, as Chris said, ^ they may well have told your daughter that her father, rather than she, is liable for the reduction in Housing/Council Tax benefits.
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I'm desperate for her to come here, we had a row a few years ago - teenage girl stuff.. School / boys etc the normal and she went there, and he let her do what she wanted when she wanted but here we had rules and curfews and she didn't want them at 15..
He's not going to tell anyone..
I'm desperate for her to come here, but she would still have to abide by some rules obviously but she's 18 she has more freedom, and a better life we have a lovely home and her room is waiting.
Thank you
He's not going to tell anyone..
I'm desperate for her to come here, but she would still have to abide by some rules obviously but she's 18 she has more freedom, and a better life we have a lovely home and her room is waiting.
Thank you
Remember that the father on his own in a 3 bed house will have 25% of his housing benefit deducted for the 'bedroom tax' as he has 2 spare bedrooms.
With his daughter living there the deduction is reduced to 14% as there is only 1 spare bedroom.so even with the daughters wage the actual total housing benefit will hardly change or could even increase! If the father gets DLA or PIP he can register his daughter as a carer and get even more benefit and no deduction from the housing benefit!
With his daughter living there the deduction is reduced to 14% as there is only 1 spare bedroom.so even with the daughters wage the actual total housing benefit will hardly change or could even increase! If the father gets DLA or PIP he can register his daughter as a carer and get even more benefit and no deduction from the housing benefit!
