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Oh I see. Not in a million years I'm happy to say. Straight as they come, both of them. He has only ever borrowed off me once in his life when he was a young man and he paid it all back. They are actually in a solid financial position, no debts, big house paid for, two holiday lets (paid for), BUT as I said they have both lost their jobs this summer so it's a cash flow problem. They need the lets to be bringing in money for them to live on until they can get another job, at least one of them. My son's MiL and me have offered to lend them money if they get into difficulty and losing a precious £3k has probably brought that probability nearer. No need to scam, they know it's there if they need it. But thanks for watching my back guys. I'm giggling here now.