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Liz Truss Plans To Remove The Uk Banker Bonus Cap

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Hymie | 20:58 Tue 20th Sep 2022 | Business & Finance
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62968072

If I were an investment banker with a very good bonus pay out (depending on how my investments performed), I might identify a risky investment - if it comes off I’d make well in excess of £1 million as a bonus payment. If it fails, the bank might go bankrupt and I’d miss out on a multimillion pound bonus.

As an investment banker, would you make such a risky investment that might make you a multi-millionaire, but on the downside could bankrupt the bank?
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But that's a decision for the bank surely? Maybe become a shareholder and vote at agm's if you want to have a say in their payphones and investment strategies. More bonuses taxed at 50% might be a good boost for public fund's?
Pay phones was 'pay & bonus'
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What’s the point of employing me as an investment banker – if the investment decisions are made by the bank?

My bonus will be paid into an offshore fund to avoid any UK tax.
Everything so far points to Parliamentary party suicide.

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/18/liz-truss-policies-tory-mps-open-goal-labour

Tory MPs are already listing the campaigns they will face from opponents come the autumn.
“The removal of the green levies on fuel and the opening up of fracking – the whole environmental movement will start campaigning against Conservatives, even though we’ve been quite green,” said one MP, adding: “The lines of political attack for Labour are incredibly clear. Bigger bonuses for bankers. The cut in national insurance will primarily help people on higher incomes.
“The freezing of energy bills primarily helps people on higher incomes because energy bills are bigger. None of this is targeted. Honestly, it’s creating a complete open goal for Labour politically.”
I suppose it's pointless trying to tell you that it doesn't work like that.
20:47 is to Hymie in case there is any doubt.

//What’s the point of employing me as an investment banker – if the investment decisions are made by the bank?//
You got the wrong end of the stick for no apparent reason as I didn't say that. We're talking about pay policy's and bonus scheme's and its the bank management, directors , shareholders, risk&compliance teams and renumeration committee's to decide on what a good policy is that rewards good results and attracts the best staff but don't reward over risky investment that put the bank at risk... its not something for politicians to interfere with.
Nice try bob but hymie is not interested in the truth only his own simplistic warped misunderstanding of how it works.
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The EU brought in the bonus cap in an effort to prevent a repeat of the 2008 banking crisis – it’s surprising that an organisation as large as the EU does not have the banking expertise of TTT to know that the bonuses paid (and the investment risks that came about as a direct result) had nothing to do with the banking crisis.

But then TTT thinks the UK 2008 banking crisis was the result of the US sub-prime mortgage situation – so perhaps they better not take any notice of TTT.
Delude yourself all you want me old china. I tried.
read item number 1
https://www.rba.gov.au/education/resources/explainers/the-global-financial-crisis.html
eg; "A large share of such risky borrowing was done by investors seeking to make short-term profits by ‘flipping’ houses and by ‘subprime’ borrowers (who have higher default risks, mainly because their income and wealth are relatively low and/or they have missed loan repayments in the past). "
//I tried//

Well, you didn't. If it "doesn't work like that", how does it work, oh wise Oracle?
The bonus cap was one of hundreds of regulation changes throughout the banking system. I think you are mainly annoyed that the UK is undoing a law that originated in your beloved EUSSR.
mozz 13:00, it's been explained on many threads, hymie is not interested he just wants to rant because we are undoing an EUSSR law. He's raised this issue several times.
// TTT thinks the UK 2008 banking crisis was the result of the US sub-prime mortgage situation //

Not sure TTT thinks that. But it is largely true. But that had nowt to do with extravagant bonuses, that was about sales commissions. They sold loans to people who could not afford to pay them back and pocketed a sales commission. Contagion arose when the US banks sold those ‘investment opportunities’ around the world, and they were dud.
There aren't any real banks anymore, everything is run by robots. A couple of weeks ago on a UK visit I took out on arrival £50 cash from an ATM machine at a service station on the M4 using a my debit card (which had not been used for some time), when I tried to use it 3 hours later to pre-pay my hotel bill of £995 (didn't we used to pay our bills when we were leaving?) the bank's computer decided some funny business was taking place & blocked my card & my wife's too for good measure, - though I managed to pay using a different card.

The following morning we spent hours in banks getting our cards re-instated; banks being no longer recognisable as such, simply a row of robots and in the corner of the room a poor beleaguered woman having to deal with a long queue of customers all like us with 'problems' - largely brought about I believe, by the robots!

So I say, no bonuses for anyone until they get their banks working.
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If you want to know why according to the FCA the HBOS fiasco cost the UK tax-payer of the order of £17 Billion read the document in the attached link.

For an alternative view read TTT’s posts.

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/prudential-regulation/publication/hbos-summary-and-recommendations
hymie, here is a film about the lead up to the financial crash, it may help you understand the issue:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1596363/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0
Storyline excerpt:
"Three separate but parallel stories of the U.S mortgage housing crisis of 2005 are told. Michael Burry, an eccentric ex-physician turned one-eyed Scion Capital hedge fund manager, has traded traditional office attire for shorts, bare feet and a Supercuts haircut. He believes that the US housing market is built on a bubble that will burst within the next few years"
13:15, just a knock on effect of the US sub prime crisis. This was caused by brokers getting mortgages for people that could not afford them. These were then bundled into CLOs and sold as AAA securities after being mis graded by the the ratings firms. These securities were then traded in the actual market and, much more dangerously, the derivatives market.
Believe what you want Hymie, you are wrong.
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If I was an investment banker and made some risky investment on behalf of the bank that employed me, that made the bank billions of pounds – I’d be miffed if I didn’t get a good bonus.

Conversely, if the investment didn’t come off, I would not expect any bonus – but the bank might go bankrupt.

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