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thanks for your answers i will pass the info on, Pippa i agree with you I don't have kids but have friends who have been treated like sh1t by them (csa) especially the dad's who just want to be good dad's its so unfair. In this instance my friends ex had left the country and when he got back he told her that she wasn't to get in touch as he didn;t want anything to do with her or his daughter, now 9 years on he's changed his mind and is threatening all sorts,being extremely vile and i thinks she's decided this is the first step for her.