Foul mouthed and cheeky brats

[puddicat]

Went to the gym today at out local swimming pool, came down the corridor to find 2 ten years old rocking a vending machine, challenged them to the dangers of doing this, just to get told that isnt wasnt them of course, how orignal, got a mouthy one calling me such a expletive couldnt beleive that kind of language could come out of a childs mouth, and they werent frightened of any kind of authority, one even threatened me with the police!!, what kind of parents have these children got, i would have been horrified if my sons had acted like that to a concerened adult, should have let the b....dy machine full on them, and then there doting parents would say why didnt anyone help them!!!!

[annie0000]

Sadly, that isn't that rare nowadays - I was at soft play with my boys yesterday and saw a boy of about 6 clobber another one right next to me. I shot him a look - as you do - an I got a defiant stare back. I though that I would leave it as it wasn't my child involved, but this boy kept going past me and sticking his tongue out and making faces at me. I seriously thought about just sticking my foot out as he ran past, but resisted the urge. Finally, he went past and said "neh neh na neh neh". so I slowly stood up, walked towards where his mum was sitting chatting to her mate and made sure he was watching as I looked as if I was just walking by, then stopped took a couple of steps back and told his mother what he was doing. I told her that I had boys as well and I knew what they could be like, but if my son was being that rude, I would want to know. She stood up and called for him, but as he was walking back, he held his head as if he had hurt it - she spoke briefly to him smiling all the time and that was that. I am pretty sure that had it been me, I would have made my son apologise to both the child he had hurt and me. But, for most kids now, there does not seem to be any consequence to behaving badly. My kids can't understand it when they get in trouble for doing things that other kids get away with.

[shazzzz]

kids dont have any respect unless they are taught it,ther is adifferent breed of teenagers comming along now.in my day if you was causing a proberlem, you would scarper if an adult came on the seen now ,you just get stabbed or beaten up

[taperface]

All this goes to show that the punishment doesn't fit the crime these days, and many couples are having families without wanting all the hard work & responsibility that goes with it. I gave up work to care for a disabled son and also have another child, which I've brought up on my own. I haven't been able to afford fancy holidays & been able to go out very often, but my kids are respectful and decent, and by doing things together, we're a happy & fulfilled family unit. I listen to my sons & give them my time - which equates giving & receiving respect. I feel sorry for those who'll never know true parental love.

[FUZZYBEE]

Know exactly what you mean puddicat and taperface. Manners and respect is my big thing and I cannot bear to see otherwise from anyone.
We also do not have much money and we have been on holiday twice in six years (caravan), but my children are grateful for whatever they get and I think are quite good kids really. We eat together at the table, we say please and thankyou and excuse me and I make my girls say goodmorning and goodnight to each other, very simple things but important to me.
I hate to get on my soap box but I do think it stems from the parents, I know it's the hardest job in the world but speak to them how you would want to be spoken to, eat good stuff and have the naughty stuff for treats, teach them to share, listen to them and laugh a lot. I think todays children are actually anti social because they don't know how to interact, they all have mobiles, ipods tv's in the room playstations it's all very insular and single minded. Bring back go-karts and kites and marbles. I sound like I am about 60years old but I'm only 37.
sorry to hijack thread didn't mean to rant and rave.
fuzzy x

[taperface]

I think Fuzzy's answered you very well puddicat. The so-called "old fashioned" parenting methods cost nothing - but usually work. All it takes is your patience and time - not always in abundance, but you reap what you sow. I'm sure that Fuzzy's children are going to grow into decent adults, because the wisdom lies in how parents teach them from an early age. I agree that new-fangled gadgets are part of our lifestyle now, but there IS such a word as "no". I've sat for hours, devising games, and played family board games with my children. The effort we put in, will be rewarded.

[toonmilo]

I blame the parents. Discipline has to be installed from an early age with most kids. I dont mean always telling them off or giving them a whack. But simple things like has been said before, like please and thankyou. Kiss and cuddle morning and night. Bedtime story every night. This is all routine which works.

I see some kids at the play centres where i sometimes take my daughter and you get some right brats who won't say excuse me to get past, wont say sorry when they bump into you. They are all hyper on those darn Fruit Shoots i reckon!. Meanwhile the parents are sat back having a coffee oblivious to what their child is doing. They wont have a bad word said if they hear that their child pushed another over on purpose.

[puddicat]

thanks to all that replied, has restored my faith in the future and for society, i have 2 sons who are grown up now, cant say it has all been plain sailing as i have had to raise them from the age of 12 and 10, they are now 27 and 24, one went to uni and got a degree, and now is a successful business consultant, the other more into practical stuff, if he is happy i am happy!, the point being that i have given them the confidence to try and succeed, and the the best compliment that i ever got when they were younger and were invited to other peoples houses, there mates parents always said what wonderful manners and they were a joy to have to stay, my youngest gives me some grief at times, but deep down i know he is never rude to the elderly and respects his nanna,it was so nice to hear from you all the great job that you are all doing keep it up cos believe me when they grow up they will thank you for it !!!

[FUZZYBEE]

Well blow me, ten minutes after writing this we were on our way to A&E because the 4 yr old one has swallowed a marble !! See ........if I had let her have a playstation none of this would have happened !! :)
p.s. when doc asked her if she had swallowed it she said "yes but it WAS a yellow one !"
oh that's allright then as it's yellow.
On a good note though and relevant to this thread she came down and told me straight away, another thing I have told them is to tell me if they are worried about anything or they have done something they think is wrong because we can sort it out. (armed with gloves and plastic spatula i have now got to sift through you know what) JOYARAMA