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thanks,yeah ive been told not to take them yet!!ive heard about the massage,do you use any oils?i hope my labours as quick as yours then,im going to try and have a water birth if the pools are free by the time i get there,they are supposed to help with the pain etc so im keen to try everything to help as i dont really want any pain relief,dont mark my words because ill probably be screaming for an epidural when i get there,according to friends anyway!thanks for your help ill start them in a few weeks then.x