iligitimit children

[meltoadhall]

just out of interest and because I personally have very strong views on the subject.

do the people on ab who are not married and have children realise that their children are illigitimit or worse the b word?
does it bother you?

btw I'm not referring to widows or divorcees here, but those who have their children "out of wedlock"

there was an article in the paper this morning about it

[meltoadhall]

Reading the Telegraph today there are various articles on Christianity and religion.

Sad but true

[sqad617]

mel....

"do the people on ab who are not married and have children realise that their children are illigitimit or worse the b word?
does it bother you?"

The question and the amswers have all been centred around the parent/s.
How about the child, how does he or she feel, maybe not knowing the father, different name on Birth Certificate, different name maybe to the parent.

Does it bother the child should be the question.

[tamborine]

Titles/names as you list are just to defame those of better stature than yourself - or to boost your own insecurities.

Pathetic!

[redcrx]

"Reading the Telegraph today there are various articles on Christianity and religion.

Sad but true "

thanks for the warning.

[Tim123]

Much of what is wrong with the world today is down to people who consider that getting married is a 'commitment' but having a child isn't.

[pastafreak]

I think that historically,marriage was seen primarily as a practical,BUSINESS arrangement......the joining of two families for the sake of money,property and titles. I am not sure that so-called moral issues came into it at all until the Church stuck its nose in. Before that-the majority of the population must have 'lived in sin'..so we are all descended from b******s!!!

[k8bailey]

Ha ha ha at this entire thread! my baby was born out of 'wedlock'. She has her dads surname - nobody was offended. My parents are divorced, my mum went back to her maiden name, I canged my surname by deedpoll when I was 18 to disassociate my self from my father and his family. (I picked my new name out the phonebook!!) My brother kept his surmame. A name is just a name and they're not permenant.

I am still in a relationship with my baby's father we've been together for 7 years next month and I have no intention of marrying him, IMO it's an outdated custom, unnecassary and expensive. Im not religious so why bother?! Besides I'm not keen on his surname anyway!

The only thing that feels strange to me about the whole situation is not having the same surname as my daughter I wish I'd hyphenated the two names.

One day when she's older I'll ask her if it bothers her being a b****** but I think probably not. I wish my parents hadn't been married then they could've split up and lot quicker and anyway unmarried is becoming the norm isn't it?

[lucca]

Actually, meltoadhall, you still can't spell the "i" word!

[Dolly1308]

My father was born out of wedlock in 1905 ,he never knew his father but he did have a stepfather a bit later. Dad never forgave his mother for ( as he said) making him a B*STARD and it was obvious on his birth certificate-father -unknown.
Nanna was in service at the time and taken advantage of by her married employer. So while a lot of people may think it doesn't bother the out-of-wedlock children ,it certainly can.

[pmac]

I am a mum of two children both born before me and my husband married and i can honestly say i have never ever even thought of my children as b""�!�$s until I read this question,..!!

[angiebaby57]

I think u asked this question to cause a heated debate....there are MANY more worse things than having a child out of wedlock! It is very old fashioned to think of illegitamate children and certainly the B word is totally unecessary and irrelevant. I have a child born out of wedlock and 18 years later am still in love with her father, we are married, have a second child and are extremely happy. I am not ashamed of this. This is 2009....not 1950..... things change and times move on.