Pie 'N' Mash Needs To Be Protected, Says Essex Mp

[naomi24]

//An Essex MP is to lead a parliamentary debate calling for traditional pie 'n' mash with liquor to get protected status, like champagne and Cornish Pasties.

Richard Holden, the Conservative MP for Basildon and Billericay, said the dish was "part of that Cockney diaspora", describing it as "the original fast food".

He will lead the debate in Westminster Hall at 16:00 BST on Tuesday to stop producers claiming it - but with a different recipe.//

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9898lglepo

 

'Pie Mash' if you please Mr Holden - no Londoner worth his salt would ever call it Pie 'and' mash - but apart from that I'm with you on this one.  Having long ago left London I've not eaten it for years but to me it always has been the food of the Gods.  

 

Love it or loathe it - or have you never tried it?  

[youngmafbog]

Yes, had it many times but not so much now as 'er indoors isnt keen on the liquor (despite being a Londoner)

Dont suppose people on here will be behind it though they hate anything Cockney it seems.

[naomi24]

My husband wouldn't eat it either, YMB.

[sandyRoe]

Is the liquor a type of parsley sauce?

I'd like to try it someday.

[webbo3]

Funny, Cheddar cheese isn't

[naomi24]

It is parsley sauce, sandyRoe, but it's made with the water that eels have been stewed in.  Pie Mash shops also sell stewed eels with mash and liquor.

[douglas9401]

Each to their own.

[youngmafbog]

The Pie and Mash is lovely Douglas, the eels (Jellied or boiled) well yes, each to their own.  And dont get me started on the Cockles and roll mops.  Ugh!

[barry1010]

I've had it, was nice but prefer it with gravy

[youngmafbog]

What, the Liquor? 😀

[barry1010]

I can't see that it needs protecting. Does anyone company or restaurant make it outside London?  There is only around 20 pie mash shops there and I don't know of any elsewhere 

[naomi24]

//I can't see that it needs protecting.//

 

It does - because some people prefer it with gravy - but still call it Pie Mash.  Pie Mash is unique.

[zebo]

A fairly posh hotel in the village sometimes advertises this with 'liquor' and my stomach heaves at the word, there are a lot of expats from Essex and East London here.

It will be Yorkshire wanting to do the same for pie and peas next, each area has some dish peculiar to that place.

[douglas9401]

Don't forget the whelks.

[naomi24]

What exactly is pie and peas, zebo?  

[barry1010]

Pie and mushy peas sold in a pie and pea shop or stall 

[douglas9401]

"What exactly is pie and peas, zebo?"

The hard questions are being asked.

[barry1010]

It must be a traditional pork pie, though, served smothered in mushy peas

[douglas9401]

A local fave for fundraising inthese parts is a 'pie, peas and bingo night'.

No-one really knows what it entails though. 🤣

[naomi24]

//The hard questions are being asked.//

 

Just as well.  I thought Zebo meant beef pie - and now Barry tells me it's pork pie.  I would eat the pork pie but I can't be doing with mushy peas. Mamyalynne told me about black peas - I'd never heard of those either.

[pastafreak]

Webbo @ 12:46...West Country Farmhouse cheddar is. Here's a list of all protected status ​​products. ​​​So, manufactured, produced or grown. Whereas Pie Mash is a meal produced by many individual catering enterprises. They would all have to use the exact same methods and ingredients I should think. Same with the great British breakfast, or roast dinner.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Kingdom_food_and_drink_products_with_protected_status#:~:text=A%20number%20of%20United%20Kingdom,and%20outside%20the%20United%20Kingdom.