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blooming eck, i didnt think this would get that much attention,
yes i did do it by the hand, 1 admission, i did leave the dough the 1st time to prove/rise for 6hours, because i had to see a man about a dog, 2 1/2 hours the 2nd time. i usually use a mix of wholemeal and white flour, always use fresh yeast. where i bake, its far from hot, a little on the cold side in fact.
also another thing, the textures on the crumbly side. i did add oil to the dough last time i baked
thanx all