Missing marriage

[Barmaid]

I am trying to trace William Henry Stone who married Rosa Annie White in London in 1894. On ancestry I've found their bans being called but the marriage itself is missing from the records on ancestry. I really want details of this marriage so I can confirm who their parents are. Although I am fairly sure I've got their parents, I want to confirm it.

Can anyone suggest anywhere I might find full details of the marriage online, please?

[dotty.]

are you sure they married? how many years does it say they have been married on the 1911? if it's the couple living in clerkenwell with 8 children they were married 13 years, which puts the marriage abit later, though i may have the wrong ones.

[Charity]

From FreeBMD:

Marriages Mar 1894

Stone William Henry Wandsworth 1d 752

[Barmaid]

They had been married 17 years on the 1911 Dotty - it's not the couple in Clerkenwell. They were living in Ipswich with 4 children - William Walter Ackerman, Rose Matilda, James Albert and Frederick Arthur.

They married in JFM qtr in 1894.

it's just frustrating that I found the banns, but the marriage isn't on there.

[Barmaid]

Sorry, I'm not being very clear (I'm still a bit hungover, I think).

I meant that on Ancestry, there are the London parish registers where you can actually view the parish event.

Thank you for your efforts Charity - I should have explained a bit more.

[dotty.]

I've gone into a general search of the marriage register for battersea rise st mark's you can browse through every image copied form the register, i've got to APRIL and the first entry on the film is december 1893,
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=1623&path=Wandsworth.Battersea+Rise+St+Mark.1894.4&sid=&gskw=

[Barmaid]

Thanks Dotty - certainly doesn't appear that they got married in that church then. What is the rule on bans? Did they have to be called in different parishes? Ie where the groom lived and where the bride lived.

[dotty.]

yes, on the 3 sundays before the week of the wedding in both parishes if they lived in seperate parishes, if you look on the search pag where you see the banns, at the top where it says Wandsworth; battersea rise st mrk's and 1894 in green writing, drop down the battersea rise sta mark's tab and you will see all the battersea parishes listed, it won;t take long to select each one one at a time in 1894 and look at the jan/feb/march marriage register pages, but by rights they should have been married ;ast week of january i think

[dotty.]

not all the battersea churches were open in 1894 and so it speeds up your search and some seem to have missing years, possibly there were no marriages there in a year where there was no licensed minister to marry actually in residence

[Barmaid]

Thanks Dotty - I didn't know you could do that!

[dotty.]

ahhhh, william was from st john's battersea and the year 1894 is missing from the transcribed registers, that may mean the register itsself was not fit to be filmed or missing, but there will be bishop's transcripts.

[craft1948]

I can't find it in the Parish Registers on FMP..............

[Barmaid]

I've been through all the Battersea records and I can't find it. So I shall just have to order the actual certificate. I was trying not to spend much money on this one as it is for a friend.

[Wharton]

! wish my 'bans' had been called.

[craft1948]

Hang on BM, I'll post a help wanted on GenesReunited and see if I get a response.

[Barmaid]

thank you Craft. That's very kind of you.

[dotty.]

ask if anyone knows where the 1894 marriage register for st john's battersea may be, it's probably going to be the BTs but the original has not been transcribed for ancestry

[Barmaid]

Looks like Battersea St Johns was badly damaged in WW2. So that might explain what happened to that register.

[dotty.]

yes possibly does, but the BTs will have been done 4 times a year and so it's a case of hoping they survived the blitz too

[craft1948]

This is from one of the genealogists on GR........
The images for St John Battersea 1894 are not on Ancestry. They jump from 1889 to 1896.

The Banns register for St Mark has the entries are either written over with 'Married' or 'Certified' so would suggest those 'Certified' did not marry there....And their marriage was 'Certified'.

[dotty.]

mmm 'certified' should mean that a certificate was involved somewhere, i wonder if the marriage took place in the register office in the end and not the church