IGI Conundrum

[sigma]

Looking on the IGI for a marriage for Robert Locker, it states his spouse as Mrs. Elizabeth Locker. Surely it should give her maiden name. ?

[dot.haukes]

No I'll explain what this is, if you are looking at this entry in the Index on familt search.org, look at the bottom of the page and you will see a load of information about films and dilm number etc, also there will be a reference to a member's number.
What this means is that the record you have been reading is not taken from any parish Register, it is accepted infomation submitted by a member of the LDS Church. It means that the person who has researched this ancestor has included in thier supmitted tree Mrs Elixabeth Lockerm because they have found a baptism record for children ofr Robert and Elizabeth, but they have not found a marriage for Robert and Elizabeth.
The members of the LDS Church have a duty to research their ancestry, and then they postumously baptise their ancestors into the LDS Congregation.
If you look at the ino at the bottom of the page, there is a membership number and then you can go into the library catalogue on familysearch.org and possibly make contact with that member. (As I recall, it's not something I have ever done but I know there was a way of finding the person through the filmed index to members)

[dot.haukes]

sorry I made so many typos there I was not concentrating!

[sigma]

Cheers dot, have looked at Family search but no reference number was given. Also no further info in the Ancestry file.

[craft1948]

hi sigma....have you got an approximate date and county where they married?

[Mr Veritas]

Hello there.
Looking in the Free BMD,I have found (only) the following:~

1837
Robert Locker married Elizabeth Preston in Chesterfield.

1862
Robert Locker married Elizabeth Sherrell in Plymouth.


1911
Robert Locker married Elizabeth A Heron in Brampton.

Of course you may be looking for later marriages,which the Free BMD has not transcribed yet,but I hope these may help?

[sigma]

They married 27th December 1788 probably at Cubly in Derbyshire

[dot.haukes]

The parish register for marriages from that church at that time may not be included in the IGI, where did you find the Marriage entry?

[craft1948]

Rober Locker born 1763 Cubley married 9/4/1787 Elizabeth Orgill.......

[craft1948]

sorry at St Peters Church, Stapenhill.....

[sigma]

Ignore the date of 27th Dec. as I can't verify that (not sure where I got it from) The marriage was on the IGI search criteria was Robert Locker, marriage, 1780 +/- 10years all counties.
The results are :-
1) about 1787 Cubly
2) 9th April 1787 Stapenhill

[craft1948]

sorry sigma.....did you not like my reply.....

[sigma]

Sorry craft, can you verify that the Robert Locker who married Elizabeth Orgill was from Cubly.

[craft1948]

The Robert I found was the son of...
John Locker 1737-1782 born and died in Cubley
Catherine Webster 1737 - 1802 born and died Cubley
Children...
John 1758
Samuel 1760
Robert 1763
Philip 1763

[sigma]

Thanks craft I have that info but I need to confirm that Robert who was born in Cubley is the same Robert who married Elizabeth Orgill.

[dot.haukes]

Roberts older brother Samuel married Elizabeth Jackson 25 Oct 1785 at Cubley, (there must have been a license as the marriage was also shown as at Twyford)
have you checked for any children of Samuel and Elizabeth? Is it possible that Samuel died and his brother Robert married his widow Mrs Elizabeth Locker?

marriage bonds or licenses were taken out and usually both the brides and the grooms parish was included in the bond, which may mean it is shown as a double entry from the marriage bonds.

If you could locate the marriage bond in the CRO it should give other family members and occupations.

[craft1948]

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.c om/~blanchec/Stapmar2.htm

[sigma]

Thanks all, this looks like one conundrum that's going to take a while to sort out.

[dot.haukes]

the Robert Locker marrying Elizabeth Orgill in 1787 in that list craft, was from Netherseal, Leicester, not cubley, wonder if that is the same one?

[craft1948]

Yes I noticed that dot......I posted it so sigma could accept or write it off......

[sigma]

The Netherseal entry has only added more confusion. I can't imagine how or why someone from Cubley would meet someone from Stapenhill. Cubley is not the place someone would move 15 miles to go into service, likewise Stapenhill has no industry only the breweries in near by Burton on Trent. Netherseal also has no industry to talk of and is on the fringe of coal mining in South Derbyshire. I'll have to go to the CRO and hope that sorts it out.