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My Grandma's first husband war record
We have a letter from one of the Chaplain's, who was in 3 CCS, BEF France during WW1. It gives the details of my Grandma's first husband.
The only details we have is a surname - POULTER, a date of death,4th Dec 1918, and "I buried him on Dec 5th in the Military Cemetery here at Caudry, near Cambrai." The letter is signed by "Ernest H. Gallop, Chaplain."
I've searched the CWGC cemetaries, but am no further forward. Ideally I'd love to find out anything more about him. If possible to pass the Chaplain's letter on to his descendants.
Any ideas please?
The only details we have is a surname - POULTER, a date of death,4th Dec 1918, and "I buried him on Dec 5th in the Military Cemetery here at Caudry, near Cambrai." The letter is signed by "Ernest H. Gallop, Chaplain."
I've searched the CWGC cemetaries, but am no further forward. Ideally I'd love to find out anything more about him. If possible to pass the Chaplain's letter on to his descendants.
Any ideas please?
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Well done, jackthehat!
We could also approach this from your Grandma's side - if you know her maiden name, approx date of marriage and district, then there is always http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
to find the index entry of the marriage. If found, then it's possible to buy a copy of the marriage certificate from the General Register Office. Cost shortly to be £9 something. Or if you don't want to do that, then suggest the closest record to 1918 is the 1911 Census, to find a snapshot of both families. Depends how much you want to go into this!
We could also approach this from your Grandma's side - if you know her maiden name, approx date of marriage and district, then there is always http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
to find the index entry of the marriage. If found, then it's possible to buy a copy of the marriage certificate from the General Register Office. Cost shortly to be £9 something. Or if you don't want to do that, then suggest the closest record to 1918 is the 1911 Census, to find a snapshot of both families. Depends how much you want to go into this!
3CCS means No. 3 Casualty Clearing Station.
I don't think this would have been a part of a regiment;
http://www.edithapple...iss_Latham_letter.pdf
this letter may be of some use to explain exactly what and where it was.
I don't think this would have been a part of a regiment;
http://www.edithapple...iss_Latham_letter.pdf
this letter may be of some use to explain exactly what and where it was.
Jack - Thanks. I guess I was thinking the Chaplain would've been attached to whichever regiment Mr. Poulter/Poultek was serving under [doh!!] and not where he'd been medivac'd to.
Grandma was Maud or Maude Beatrice Roulton 27/10/1892 - 09/03/1978. Born Lambeth, London, where she lived most of her life. Thanks for all your help [and you too Rosy]
Grandma was Maud or Maude Beatrice Roulton 27/10/1892 - 09/03/1978. Born Lambeth, London, where she lived most of her life. Thanks for all your help [and you too Rosy]
Morning, I should be doing the VAT :( but I think I have found a likely marriage.
March quarter 1918 Lambeth GRO reference 1d 484.
William F Poulter and Maud B Rulton - the transcriber on FREEBMD has put 'Rutton' as the spouse name on William's entry, but if you click on the 484 bit Maud's name is Rulton. I've checked the original and it looks like 'Rulton'.
If this is the one, then it's all very sad, them marrying in the March, and William being killed in December.
Very similar case to my own grandmother and her first husband....probably all too common, unfortunately.
March quarter 1918 Lambeth GRO reference 1d 484.
William F Poulter and Maud B Rulton - the transcriber on FREEBMD has put 'Rutton' as the spouse name on William's entry, but if you click on the 484 bit Maud's name is Rulton. I've checked the original and it looks like 'Rulton'.
If this is the one, then it's all very sad, them marrying in the March, and William being killed in December.
Very similar case to my own grandmother and her first husband....probably all too common, unfortunately.
Maud Beatrice Rulton - birth registered Dec Q 1892 Lambeth ref 1d 360.
1901 Census - the family were living at 1 Hampshire St, Lambeth. Maud was age 8 and a scholar, as you would expect.
Her parents were Henry, age 31, born 1870 Hedengham Essex & Sarah age 34, born 1867 Maldon. Maud had two brothers, Charles born 1898 and Harry born 1901 in Lambeth also.
Can't find them in 1911 but I found a death for Sarah age 39 in Dec Q 1901 Lambeth (1d, 212) and also little Sarah, age just 2, in Jun Q 1907 in Lambeth (1d 178). This would have put the family in somewhat of a turmoil, and tracking the individuals down in 1911 looks as if it will take a little longer!
1901 Census - the family were living at 1 Hampshire St, Lambeth. Maud was age 8 and a scholar, as you would expect.
Her parents were Henry, age 31, born 1870 Hedengham Essex & Sarah age 34, born 1867 Maldon. Maud had two brothers, Charles born 1898 and Harry born 1901 in Lambeth also.
Can't find them in 1911 but I found a death for Sarah age 39 in Dec Q 1901 Lambeth (1d, 212) and also little Sarah, age just 2, in Jun Q 1907 in Lambeth (1d 178). This would have put the family in somewhat of a turmoil, and tracking the individuals down in 1911 looks as if it will take a little longer!
As for William F, I have found two possible births: Mar Q 1898 Lambeth ref 1d 508, and Dec Q 1899 Steyning ref 2b 277. Both had second name of Frederick.
There are lots of possibles in both the 1901 and 1911 Census - so all too easy to bark up the wrong (family) tree. Any chance of getting the marriage certificate? Then we could search on his father's name...
Unless jackthehat has a better idea ... which I'm sure he has ; o)
There are lots of possibles in both the 1901 and 1911 Census - so all too easy to bark up the wrong (family) tree. Any chance of getting the marriage certificate? Then we could search on his father's name...
Unless jackthehat has a better idea ... which I'm sure he has ; o)
Thanks Jack and Rose, that's brilliant. As you can see I'm very much a new kid doing all this. Out of interest - and this shows my total lack of knowledge - for those killed during WW1 and WW2 do death certificates [as we know them] get issued? Thanks to your sterling efforts, at least I can fill in the Genes reunited tree and see if I get a match. You've been a fantastic help.
home e-mail if that's easier is [email protected]
Hi
Don't know if you've done so but maybe try the following;
- looking for a relevant service/organisation online that specialises in WW1 records
- contact births, marriages and deaths to see if they could find a record for you - as they may are trained/have the ability to do a more detailed search than most of us on here !!
- if someone in family/friend is doing family history then speak with them and see what they may be able to find
Don't know if you've done so but maybe try the following;
- looking for a relevant service/organisation online that specialises in WW1 records
- contact births, marriages and deaths to see if they could find a record for you - as they may are trained/have the ability to do a more detailed search than most of us on here !!
- if someone in family/friend is doing family history then speak with them and see what they may be able to find
No problem - anytime. Sorry that I am not able to help you in your search. I am not into doing Family History but I'll have a word with a Cousin that has done it for 15 years at least and see what she can give me for you. If I do get anything about your Grandma's 1st Husband - I will send to your email if that's ok for you? I will contact you either way so you know if I have or haven't got info.
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