Hawley Harvey Crippen

[echokilo]

I have heard a rumour that my family may be related to the above notorious murderer (nice!!!) Can anyone tell me if there is any family tree work available on the internet for him and whether his Crippin line originated in Ireland as mine did ................ TIA

[craft1948]

I've looked at a few of Crippen's family trees on ancestry and as far back as 1705 the Crippen's were from Connecticut....

[dotty.]

His parents were both born in the USA: This is them in 1900 living in Los Angeles with Crippens natural son, the cenus form asked for the Country of birth of each person, Myron Augustus Crippen put New York for his parents and his wife put Wales for her fathers birth and Pensylvania for her mother's birth. Interestingly, the son hawley otto, who was left with the grandparents, gives his father's birthplace as Michigan but his mother's birthplace as Ireland, she was called Charlotte and died in 1892 but I;ve not found her maiden name yet.
1900 census Los Angeles:
Myron A Crippen
Home in 1900: Pasadena Precinct 5, Los Angeles, California
[Pasadena, Los Angeles, California]
Age: 65
Birth Date: Apr 1835
Birthplace: New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's Birthplace: New York
Spouse's name: Ardessa Crippen
Marriage Year: 1856
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 44
Occupation: View on Image
Household Members:
Name Age
Myron A Crippen 65
Ardessa Crippen 64
Hawley O Crippen 10

Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Pasadena Precinct 5, Los Angeles, California; Roll: T623_91; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 117.

[dotty.]

in 1880 Crippen was living with his mother, his dad was not there and he worked in a canning factory:
Name: Hawley Crippin
Home in 1880: San Jose, Santa Clara, California
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Birthplace: Michigan
Relation to Head of Household: Son
Father's birthplace: New York
Mother's name: Ardesee Crippin
Mother's birthplace: Pennsylvania
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Works In Canning Factory
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male

I think this is his first wife's burial:
Name: Charlotte J. Crippen
Birth Date: 1859
Birth Place: Ireland
Death Date: 24 Jan 1892
Death Place: Salt Lake City, Utah
Plot: 17956 MT.OL-CEMT
Burial Date: 24 Jan 1892

[dotty.]

yes that is definately her, i have found a newspaper report for her death in salt lake mentioning her husband.

[dotty.]

this is crippen aged 8 in 1870:
Name: Hawley C Crippen
[Hawley H Crippen]
Birth Year: abt 1862
Age in 1870: 8
Birthplace: Michigan
Home in 1870: Coldwater Ward 2, Branch, Michigan
Race: White
Gender: Male
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Myren A Crippen 35
Ardessee Crippen 35
Hawley C Crippen 8
Amanda Pulver 27

[dotty.]

Charlotte Jane Bell was born Dublin Ireland 1860, and the trees on ancestry for crippen, as craft says, have all his male line mach to 1685 and all born in the New England states.

[echokilo]

Thanks everyone- seems the connection is a myth then.

[dotty.]

well not necessarily, without looking at where any siblings or aunts uncles, great aunts uncles went you can't dismiss it. It would need some closer research to establich whether any of the male crippen ancestors went to Ireland.

[echokilo]

Really wouldn't know where to start Dot ..... I had assume that it might have been Irish Crippin's who moved to the USA, perhaps at the same time that my Crippin ancestors left Ireland for England (potato famine time) .... hadn't really thought abouut them going from the USA to Ireland ..... so this would mean tracing the Irish Crippins back to see if they originate in the USA I guess ..... and I really wouldn't know how to access any such records. My Crippin's were in England from 1849 at least.

[dotty.]

I think the difference here is the spelling, Crippen in England in 1841 onwards was mainly found in kent and the Middlesex area, with Crippin being the spelling with Irish births and in more Northern Counties,