Is there a Catholic ST George

[Fish the Mod]

The local Catholic church and School is named St Georges and mount Carmel. I thought St George was a made up saints by the English- Who was he and is he one of the same

[jno]

George dates back to before the Anglican church peeled off from the Roman Catholic church, so in effect he's everybody's saint. He is supposed to have died around 300AD. He's the patron saint of Lithuania, Malta, and (or course) Georgia as well as England. He may have existed, since he was venerated quite early on, but in the next thousand years or so all sorts of legends, including the one about the dragon, became attached to his name. See this wikipedia article for his history.

[kempie]

The "English" don't make up saints, the Roman Catholic Church does.

http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/indexsnt.htm

[Fish the Mod]

 Sorry Kempie, I meant make up stories not saints. One example is the made up church called the Church Of England- now you understand

[kempie]

The RC Church also makes up the stories to justify the saints ;-)

[slimjim]

Fish, yes the Church of England was made up. Made up to get away from the corrupt, immoral, hypocritcal RC church. And to help Henry get his new bird too, of course!

[Octavius]

Kempie - It was mainly because lots of soldiers at the time wanted George to be their patron that the church gave in an made him a Saint.  Originally he was the patron saint of soldiers.  The English adopted him as their national patron.   

In 1348, George was adopted by Edward III as principal Patron of his new order of chivalry, the Knights of the Garter.

The earliest records of the Order of the Garter were destroyed by fire, but it is believed that either in 1348 or in 1344 Edward proclaimed St George Patron Saint of England. Although the cult of St George was suppressed in England at the Reformation, St George's Chapel, Windsor, completed in stages from 1483 to 1528, has remained the official seat of the Order, where its chapters assemble. The Monarch and the Prince of Wales are always members, together with 24 others and 26 Knights or Ladies Companion.

As early as 496, Pope Gelasius in De libris recipiendis includes George among those saints 'whose names are rightly reverenced among us, but whose actions are known only to God'.

St George is also, of course, venerated in the Church of England, by the Orthodox churches and by the Churches of the Near East and Ethiopia. The supposed tomb of St George can still be seen at Lod, south-east of Tel-Aviv; and a convent in Cairo preserves personal objects which are believed to have belonged to George.

[brachiopod]

Do you live in Archway, Fish ?

[Peter Pedant]

No you're right Fish - RCs with a long memory (me) will recollect that John XXiii did a bit of housekeeping in the sixties and St George became Mr George -

Nothing happened - no temples were rent, no skies darkened.....

oh and before George and the dragon it was more commonly Michael and the Dragon

[stokerboy]

st george is well known to have been irish