The Reformation Saw Great Estates Move From The Church To The King And His Cronies.

[sandyRoe]

In countries where there was no Reformation how did the church and monasteries lose their lands?

[dzug2]

They didn't - they kept them

[sandyRoe]

Even to this day?

[Svejk]

Our local Abbey was recently sold for housing. So I suppose it gets distributed in the normal way.
Off topic;
Seamus is reading Beowulf on R4 every day, next week, Sandy. I think its 9.45. I wouldn't like to think of you missing it if you weren't already aware.

[sandyRoe]

I didn't know that, Svejk. Thanks for the info.

[Peter Pedant]

Hmm what about a related question: why were there reformations in countries where the King didnt need a quickie divorce ?

In Spain - there was a collapse in the economy during the eighteenth century when the silver from the New WOrld ran out.... and the church lands were nationalised

IN France there was a reformation -but it is a Roman Catholic country
and on French wiki read all about it under

Clericalisme. anticlericalisme, laicite, secularisme

During the revolution there was a wave of anti-religious feeling....
I think there was summit called - massacre de septembre where somone goes in and finishes off 4 Bishops, 86 priests 4 'laics'
kust because he feels like it

and after 1870
there was another one
all priests and nuns are chucked out of gay Paree (which becomes even gai-er I suppose as a result) but I dont know what happens tothe religious houses

Mejico - big wave of anticlericalism see Froggie wiki in the 1890s


well you asked

[Peter Pedant]

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There is no move to reform the Church in Beowulf as far as I recall

[sandyRoe]

With Grendel, his Ma, and a dragon knocking about, people would have wanted the comfort that a well grounded church could have provided. No time for thinking of church reform then.