Vietnam War Tv C91

[tamborine]

why are they playing God Save the Queen? Did britsh troops partake?

[emmie]

not according to the page i just looked at.
They did however land in Vietnam 1945.

[emmie]

not that it makes any difference to your post...

[emmie]

How many British soldiers died in the Vietnam War?
Casualties. For Britain's involvement in the First Vietnam War, the officially stated casualty list was 40 British and Indian soldiers killed and French and Japanese casualties a little higher. An estimated 2,700 Viet Minh were killed.

[pastafreak]

The melody for God Save the Queen is the same for an American patriotic song...My Country tis of Thee.

[emmie]

so it is...

[pastafreak]

https://youtu.be/DqiOBbRzEgI

[Peter Pedant]

// How many British soldiers died in the Vietnam War?//
nil
Harold wilson famously refused to send ANY troops to Vietnam and incurred Johnson's dislike and his disinclination to relieve WIlsons embarrassment over the usual spend spend spend Labour policies. But he still said no - this did not prevent 2 large anti vietnam war marches in London in the late sixties

so years ago when you went froo Ho Chi Minh airport ( post liberation that is ! ) the figure next to - nos of troops sent to Viet was Nil,

yeah they had a placard wivvit on.

but you say were there any Brits serving with other forces? doubtless - but I dont think the viets found out

As for Brits involved in the re establishment of the French Empire in Indochina 1945- in the end they re-armed the defeated enemy - yup the Japanese - ooer that must have been interesting !

[Peter Pedant]

PBs and smithsonian intellectuals are not above rewriting history according to their present day needs

if they are aware of the chaos of invading Iraq and leaving nothing in its place - they might be less critical of liberating the British and French empires and .... leaving nothing in its place - hence Viet and 50 000 american dead

fer - instance - WW2 Battle of stalingrad - the first twenty minutes or so was on yet again the Holocaust. but hold it - S-grad on the Volga in Ukraine is er nowhere near the death camps of Poland nor did many ukrainians end up there dead. - and Zhukov and the Battle of Kirsk which did for the German Army is likewise unconnected
Never mind that [- you got it

I sat there with my mouth open

[ToraToraTora]

probably America my country tis of thee, many songs share the tune of GSTQ.

[ToraToraTora]

it was also the French Royal Anthem, they sing it in the bars when England play France in Paris:

[MrsLadyBug]

Just out of curiosity, sorry nothing really to do with original post. But does anyone know about the history of the music and words for God Save the Queen. Who and when it was written.

[ToraToraTora]

1745
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Save_the_Queen

[pastafreak]

According to the site History Extra...

//It was the melody that came first, possibly as a Tudor plainsong, or chant. The earliest musical manuscript evidence was written around 1619 by Dr John Bull, who was a famed English organist living in Belgian exile following a sex scandal.//

[albaqwerty]

not a rebellious Scot to be seen in this version -

https://www.projectbritain.com/anthem.html

Didn't become national anthem til early 1800's.
Over 140 composers have used the music or part thereof in their compositions.

[tamborine]

thanx Pasta & Tora3 - I learn something new everyday.

PP lets not open the jap war again ;)

[pastafreak]

Thank you for BA tambo.

[retrocop]

The Aussies SAS squadrons took part but although a British Commonwealth member they have their own National anthem.

[Peter Pedant]

PP lets not open the jap war again ;)
oh OK if madame says so
but not even a little - - slit ? please small opening remember
but not even a small bit - - - a chink ? - please that is also a small opening too - I have no idea of any other meanings you SAY might exist

[tamborine]

stoppit pp - dont tempt me ;)

[Peter Pedant]

// The Aussies SAS squadrons took part//
yup there is even an oz VC for service in viet