lennon assasination

[tali122]

anyone believe the theory that john lennon was assasinated by the US goverment?

[Gef]

No.

[jno]

nope.

[don1]

Yes brainless turds believe it

[gary baldy]

no

[Philtaz]

Nah!

[gary baldy]

Glad to see y'all treating this post with the contempt it deserves.

[gw1]

No. The US govt are capable of many a thing, but I don't believe in any conspiracy around John Lennon's assassination!

[Loosehead]

Per lease not another bloody conspiracy cobblers theory. Why would the US governement be remotely intersted in a nobody popstar.

Next they'll be saying Diana was murdered by Prince Philip!

[jno]

the CIA certainly had been interested in him, as a focus of the antiwar movement. Presley offered to spy on the Beatles for President Nixon. (Nice one, Elvis.) But I don't believe for a moment they had any interest in killing him.

[vehelpfulguy]

Dont dismiss things like this out of hand.

You only have to read a book like All the Presidents Men (Nixon and Watergate) to see how much goes on behind the scenes in the US and how corrupt it is.

Or watch JFK, the film by Oliver Stone about the killing of Kennedy. Most of what he shows is true and it certainly makes you wonder about US society.

The CIA have certainly been involved in assasinations of leaders from other countries and given money to overthrow governments. They also tried to invade Cuba (Bay of pigs).

They also trained people to commit crimes like murder and then "forget" what they had done afterwards.

And look what the US are doing in Iraq, they certainly did not go in their just to get rid of Saddam.

Organizations like the CIA and FBI are (or were) paranoid about communists and other subversive people and organizations.

John Lennon gave money to groups like the Black Panthers and other "underground" groups, so would be seen as a dangerous influence.

And remember he had taken the US government to court because he could not a green card because of his drug conviction, and this probably got a few people in the FBI and CIA upset.

I am not saying he WAS murdered but the CIA or FBI, but it is not a far fetched as you may think.

[LazyGun]

It IS farfetched.. total balderdash.

[vehelpfulguy]

Before shouting total balderdash how about reading All the Presidents Men about Watergate and Nixon.

You may think some of the things in there were total balderdash if you did not know the book was factual.

The original Watergate burglary was of a doctor who had been treating one of Nixons opponents. They wanted to find out what was wrong with him so they could rubbish him in public. This was done with Nixons say so.

Many of the burglers who broke into Watergate were of the criminal element and the CIA has been known to employ many undesirable people.

In the book there is also discussion of how each of the political parties would deliberately try to sabotage each others public meetings by all sorts of underhand methods. It was called R*tf*cking. Search for it on the internet.

Look at all the strange goings on with the assasination of JFK. As I said, watch the film JFK or read the many books about it.

In the film, listen to the speech by Donald Sutherland as the CIA spy who talks to Kevin Costner. He encapsulates many of the stragnge goings on that the CIA get up to.

Under the surface the USA is a paranoid country and has been either directly or indirectly involved in almost every conflict since the second world war.

They will almost anything to protect themselves and their way of life from anyone or anything who threatens it.

Look at the McCarthy communist trials in the 50s for example that drove many to suicide, and others out of the country.

Unless you know something others dont it is not total balderdash.

[LazyGun]

I've read the books and seen the film for all the presidents men

Ive read countless books and articles, and seen the film regarding JFK.

I repeat.... with specific reference to the claim that John Lennon was assassinated by the US government... paranoid delusion, balderdash, poppycock

[tali122]

im not saying lennon was assainated by the cia but veryhelpfulguy is spot on in what he says-(although oliver stones film appears to have been discredited). Lyndon b johnson , for instance has been implicated by reliable sources in the death of jfk

[bernardo]

vehelpfulguy wrote:

Or watch JFK, the film by Oliver Stone about the killing of Kennedy. Most of what he shows is true and it certainly makes you wonder about US society.

Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!! The film "JFK" was overwhelmingly spectacularly inaccurate and misguided - as was the Garrison "investigation" on which it was based. It wasn't a proper investigation - it was a deranged witch-hunt. The film JFK is mindbogglingly wrong about the single-bullet theory, which is clearly explained in the book "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner.

[derekblue]

many years ago i read a book on the death of bobby kennedy.It was blamed on something called operation mongoose.This was also covered years later concerning Lennon.sadly i cant remember the names of the books.I do remember that it was concerning auto suggestion and the trigger being the book Catcher in the rye.