Nephilum and Satan

[Netty]

What are Nephilum? They are mentioned in the Bible. Does it say in the Bible when Satan was no longer an Angel of God? If so where.

[Quizmonster]

Isaiah Chapter 14 deals with Satan's fall from heaven. In the Authorised Version of the Bible, Verse 12 specifically says: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground."

I cannot find a reference to 'Nephilum' either in the copious index at the back of my huge Family Bible or on Crosswalk, a usually-reliable website on biblical information. Are you sure you've spelt it correctly? Perhaps Cetti - who has forgotten more about the Bible than I ever knew - will be along soon to help you out on that one.

[jjf2003]

"In Hebrew lore, the nephilim stood for giants of primeval times; also as fallen angels or their offspring who cohabited with the daughters of men, as in Genesis 6".....(Gustav Davidson, A Dictionary of Angels).

[spiff]

The nephilum were meant to be great big geezers from the dawn of history. i seem to remember them incurring God's wrath for turning their backs on him,and using technology of some kind.

[asallen]

See this website:- http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/ReturnOfTheNeph
ilim.html Convinced?

[Janetex]

Taxing my memory here, but I remembering learning at school that they were, unlike seraphim and cherubim, "anti-angels", supported Lucifer and fell with him from grace. They then went around mating with humans to create more satanic types. A search using the correct spelling would turn up more. Maybe Ripley's Believe it or not could do a show about it.

[Cetti]

Not forgotten QM never knew!! I claim total ignorance regarding Nephilum, or is it Nephilums? It must be a word not used in my Bible - the NIV.

Satan is a lot easier to answer. QM has already given you the verse in Isaiah, Netty, but there is also the reference in Luke10 v 18 where Jesus says" I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven" . Satan was once part of the inner circle surrounding God's throne and was worship leader of the heavenly choir until he became proud - and was instantly booted out with his followers(demons) to roam the earth until the Day of Judgement.

PS. How have you managed to keep your Family Bible QM - our disintegrated years ago with a little help from silver fish!!

[Quizmonster]

Dear Cetti, there's no date information - printed or otherwise - in my Bible. It just isn't one that ancestors have written in birth, wedding and death dates, for example, so there is no real 'family' aspect to it. It weighs almost a stone...kilos don't mean a thing to me...and it was printed by Blackie in Edinburgh...would it be too nationalistic to say that Scottish things are "built to last"? Cheers

[archbishop]

Yes it would.

[Quizmonster]

Nevertheless, Your Grace, it has the inestimable advantage over Cetti's of still being around! (It was a joke, by the way.)

[thekraut]

what's a stone in kilos anyway?