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thanks for all the advice, using a drill and chisel worked a treat and it only took about 30 mins to do 4 rectangles :-) I brought the router for my ex to use, but he's not in the picture anymore. I have been so tempted to use it, but i think i'll end up doing more harm than good. @ the builder - i think for once my weakness has come in handy as i went though it so slowly i was able to stop when i needed too. Thank you for all your advice on the safety side of things too, i didn't realise it can cause so much harm