How To Make A Joint

[ukanonymous]

Is this joint better than a butt joint? I know it isn't text book i was just playing around hehe. Also when I screw in the screws do I have to drill a hole first or just screw them straight in?
http://imgur.com/gallery/wR3fK4h

[youngmafbog]

Well I got the wrong end of that title!

You will be having TTT pulling his hair out :-)

[GenuineclAss]

Don't drill a hole before putting screws in.

[youngmafbog]

Seriously though I use both types of joint depending on the application.

As for the screws I find if you use a screw like "Turbo Gold" then you can usually manage without a pilot hole especially with the impact driver. Does depend on the wood though and how close to the end, pilot holes prevent the wood splitting.

[youngmafbog]

//Don't drill a hole before putting screws in.//

Interesting - may I ask why you say that?

[Mexican18]

I'm not going near that title! I got in enough trouble yesterday!

[The Builder]

I remember when we used to get king-size cigarette papers printed as a dollar bill............. er ............. ah........ I see now......

Uk, that is a perfectly good joint for your storage racks. No good for a frame that's going to have to be moved around, because it'll soon loosen up.
Shelving should be rigid, and preferably anchored to a wall for stability. So that joint is fine.

The screws the others have mentioned are usually "twin-thread" or similar. That is... you can drive them straight in with no pilot hole needed. I always use something like that.

But......................... for you ............. you will possibly struggle to drive them easily without a pilot hole.
I usually have two cordless for this. One with a 3mm steel drill bit for the pilot hole... and the other one with a screwdriver bit (pozidrive.)

The other reason for this is that, without pre-drilling, you can easily split the wood. A pilot hole stops that from happening.

[piggynose]

well you will need some rolling tobaco and some rizlas.

[Togo]

https://thumbsnap.com/i/y2iN9ebd.jpg

[The Builder]

Rock n Roll Togo............................

That's what is known in certain parts of Saaaff London as a Camberwell Carrot ;o)

[Mexican18]

The Spanish for joint is porro which means leek!

[Zacs-Master]

I thought the spanish for joint was 'articulación'? The spanish for Leek is Puerro.

[Atheist]

Zacs; maybe Spanish street talk is porro.

[Mexican18]

Zacs, Google'porro in Spanish' and see what it says.

[Atheist]

Anyway, re Togo's pic, I remember king-size skins, but never seen one that size. Imagime what a six-skinner would look like!

[Zacs-Master]

porro means Joint as in a Spliff, not a timber junction.

[derekpara]

I suggest that if you are screwing into end grain you angle the screws to slightly engage some long grain as well. This increases joint strength. So, looking at your image, if you screw down from the horizontal rail into the vertical leg you screw down in an inverted 'V', being careful not to use over-long screws. Don't forget to apply PVA glue to the inner surfaces.

Cheers. D

[Mexican18]

Zacs, now look up 'pedante'.

[Zacs-Master]

Ooops looks like someone didn't like being corrected on the spanish for Leek. (I'll leave the childish 'spliff' interpretations).

[Mexican18]

Lo siento!

[Zacs-Master]

Indeed.